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Trump and Space: 12/12/2017 15:19:43


Padraig
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How seriously should Trump's proposals regarding space exploration be regarded?

During a press conference, at which the President was speaking of the importance of US space exploration, astronaut Buzz Aldrin was present. No doubt Mr. Aldrin wishes to promote human space exploration, given his having been the second man to walk on the moon. Aldrin did not have much to say at the event, but sometimes facial expressions can speak louder than words.

Aldrin appeared bemused by Trumps comments:

Before signing the executive order Trump joked with Aldrin, saying, "There's a lot of room out there, right?"

The astronaut's responded, "To infinity and beyond."

But Trump didn't seem to get the joke referencing Buzz Lightyear's catchphrase in "Toy Story."

"This is infinity here. It could be infinity. We don't really don't know. But it could be. It has to be something, but it could be infinity, right?" the president replied. (Aol)


See the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGFcC5IZyvs

Edited 12/12/2017 15:20:18
Trump and Space: 12/12/2017 16:18:43


kyte
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Hint: Look at the NASA budget (steady at $19BB, declining as a percentage of the overall budget, and now having its climate science cut for political reasons). Does this budget look like a serious commitment to space exploration? Every President comes in and gives NASA some new ambitious set of goals.

NASA itself probably would not want to spend its budget this way. It's far more efficient for them to keep performing fundamental astronomy research and using robots for exploration (you can't exactly engineer astronauts to survive in extreme conditions).

Why is this happening, then? Certainly not cause scientists asked. It's cause senators and representatives in certain states (incl. Florida) are using this to get some money thrown at their state so they can look good while campaigning for re-election and say they created jobs. What's happening to NASA, meanwhile, is that they're forced to not only use their budget in sillier ways with each administration (for the benefit of congressmen and companies like Boeing/Lockheed- not humanity) but they will also have their goals re-imagined again 4-8 years from now. In reality the whole time NASA really gets less and less ambitious in practice on manned space exploration and the timeline for going back to the moon keeps getting pushed decades down the line.

On top of that, the rhetoric of NASA going back to some original goal is very reminiscent of what Trump et al. have been using to kill off NASA climate science.

Modern NASA is a great example of why you shouldn't put a society's scientific resources in the hands of politicians who are generally both ignorant and uninterested in their research. This isn't just for Trump but for every administration I've been alive for.

I don't know why this is getting any airplay; anyone who's been paying attention to US space politics kind of expects this bullshit new set of goals whenever an administration changes.

Our best shot of Mars colonization is still private industry (mainly just SpaceX) so NASA still helps there by throwing contracts at them once in a while.

Edited 12/12/2017 16:22:53
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Trump and Space: 12/12/2017 19:03:35


knyte 
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Do you just start every thread with the intention of using it as a segue into reposting some Wikipedia article you just read?
Trump and Space: 12/13/2017 03:18:22


Padraig
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Not always.

Sometimes I am inspired by Sandra Bullock movies.
Trump and Space: 12/13/2017 20:36:13


TeamGuns 
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How seriously should Trump's proposals regarding space exploration be regarded?


Trump can't even make a republican candidate win a race in Alabama, the US isn't going to Mars any soon...
Trump and Space: 12/14/2017 17:30:42


Wulfhere
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He could turn water into wine and would get criticized
Trump and Space: 12/14/2017 17:36:37


Wulfhere
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And knyte of course NASA which has a monopoly on space exploration is going to minimize costs. The ideal politician pressures bureaucracy to be high quality and productive because otherwise they would not be. Of course the US is a social democracy so politicians must invest in vote buying through welfare programs rather than space exploration.
Trump and Space: 12/15/2017 01:23:46


Padraig
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He could turn water into wine and would get criticized.


The grapes would be sour.
Trump and Space: 12/15/2017 18:40:44


TeamGuns 
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He could turn water into wine and would get criticized


So far he's been turning America from a flawed country into an even more flawed country. Your prestige in the world has been shaken and the tax reform bill, the only major reform he'll be able to pass is an abomination, in terms of social AND economic cost as well.

And the worse of all is that he's so incompetent that you can't even say for sure if he's doing all of this in purpose...
Trump and Space: 12/15/2017 19:12:40


Hot Brick
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Donald's handwriting is enough proof to show that he's incompetent.
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