keep making bad maps and reciting Dylan Thomas, you are good at that

BuT gUyS fIzZeR iS sAbOtAgInG hIs OwN pAsSiOn PrOjEcT fOr MoNeY fRoM tOdDlErS!!!!!!111!one!!!

FFS he released an update today and has a feedback thread going on. If he wanted to make boatloads of cash, he probably wouldn't have spent a decade of his life building an indie game into a company.

The update is far from perfect- Fizzer himself is pretty open about that and already working to fix things. Complaining about the game doesn't really get us anywhere; the most you'll accomplish is get some people to leave the game. Working with Fizzer with specific feedback/suggestions, though, is already working. So why not hop on that train instead of the one going nowhere?

If you think the UI sucks, if you think a lot of the changes made might not have been tested thoroughly enough, etc., then yeah a lot of people would agree. But in life, whenever you find something that you don't like and can't easily change yourself, you've got two options:

a) be a little bitch- whine about it, get people riled up, waste a ton of energy without anything to show for it. This is the option where your thread gets derailed with a name-calling contest against Bane of all people.

b) figure out how to change things- understand other people's positions and put in the effort to convince them of your viewpoint or get them to work with you instead of antagonizing everyone; you're never really powerless

You know those experiments where they put a monkey in a room with food just barely out of its reach, and it's got to figure out how to use some box in the corner as a stepstool? Well, you could be doing that, but instead you're just screaming and flinging shit everywhere.

Don't be a little bitch.

Edited 11/15/2017 05:52:50

Kyte, I see that there are a lot of people that are already leaving. So if you want me to not complain as I see a huge problem happening then you are an idiot as well. this is the largest change and biggest disaster WarLight has experienced. It may not recover. so go ahead and keep pushing the false agenda forward because you are just like Bane. and you make bad maps

Edited 11/15/2017 06:09:54

" I've been a member for 10 years"

Stopped reading. My bullshit detector redlined.

Your account is from 2010.

Know who else's account isn't 10 years old?

Fizzers.

NO ONE is standing up for warzone, they are only telling me to shut up. That is a bad sign. Especially when it's coming from a bunch of newbs. People are leaving and I would like to keep playing. So stop telling me to shut up when I'm right.

LOLOLOLOL, The Uberelite account created 11/13/17!!!!!! Welcome to 2 days into WarLight. Sorry I didn't say 8 years instead of 10. Glad I was corrected by someone playing for 2 days.... omg, what is happening here????

No one's telling you to not complain. I've complained. Like I said, I think a lot of this update was a mistake.

I'm just telling you that you're going to waste your time if you stick to your current methods.

I think anyone who knows me knows what I'm saying. I don't play with fizzer, he's detached from his own game. I don't think he understands the direction he going. It is not a good direction. I don't say much about other things that have happened, but this is a drastic change and it's not good. There will be consequences to this change and they will not be good.

So what exactly are you trying to achieve here? Is this your take on a retirement thread?

'Cause I bet you if you make those complaints more specific (even "Who the fuck uses camo? This isn't 2009, Fizzer; you need to be more picky with designers.") you'll actually get something out of this.

Edited 11/15/2017 06:35:49

Kyte, we also have no games in common, so it looks like you play a bunch of bad maps and encourage WarLight into it's demise

Yeah I only play lotteries. I think this update has really made lotteries more fun again tbh.

I take it you only play large diplomacies? This update has been terrible for them.

Edited 11/15/2017 06:36:56

I still haven't had a single person try to explain how the upgrade was an improvement, only to tell me to shut up.

Lol, I don't play large diplomacies which also shows how little you know of this game.

It wasn't an improvement, on many fronts. I'm not telling you to shut up.

I'm telling you to:

a) be more specific about what sucks

b) comment that in Fizzer's thread

I have a lot of complaints about this change too. But if I'm the only one bringing them up, Fizzer will probably miss them. So throw in your complaints on the feedback thread, and try a little bit so that there's actual information in them.

Basically, instead of commenting "this is really stupid" in a thread that people are only in for kicks (this one), try commenting "[specific thing] is really stupid because [specific reasons] and I'm amazed that you didn't figure this out earlier" in the feedback thread where Fizzer will at least read and probably respond to your stuff.

Edited 11/15/2017 06:40:23

I'm confused, what does my account being new have to do with you being wrong?

I'd ask you to explain it to me, but I don't tend to follow the logic of arguments laid forth by players with under 1800 elo very well.

SHtu up UberElite ur a n00b & the eXact kind of pErsOn that Fizzer made WARZONE for

yOU are the CANCER detroying this community

i am LEAVING this site bcause WARZONE update is absolute tErriBLE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hguiN8oo0dI

Edited 11/15/2017 06:44:23

NO ONE IS POINTING OUT WHAT IS GOOD. From my perspective, this has been a massive overhaul failure. The new UI doesn't work on any platform well and looks terrible. The name has been changed for the worse. So what are you saying is oK?????

I think you're missing the part where people- including Fizzer- generally agree with you and are working to fix things.

TheUberElite = Nauzhror, a guy with 6 lifetime memberships and a clan. I've also been around for 5 years or so. Nauz also sometimes has trouble finding QuickMatch opponents when he disallows Small Earth Auto Dist and other templates. I think the UI color scheme doesn't really work out, and profiles/etc. are pretty broken right now. People have those concerns, have articulated them, and gotten responses- including changes to the site.

Fizzer is already working to fix stuff that's broken with the update. So it's a waste of time to criticize him when we can instead help him identify what isn't working.

Basically, instead of wasting your time here where we'll probably just wonder if you're stupid or just baiting us, you can go to the feedback thread (https://www.warzone.com/Forum/286064-seeking-feedback?Offset=60) and write your specific complaints there.

Imagine you're a chef and you just made something that you think would taste delicious but people aren't enjoying it. If all they tell you is "it tastes terrible," you won't know what to change the next time. But if they tell you that it's got too much salt or that the chicken is undercooked and probably just gave them salmonella, you at least have something to start with. So, since you probably have a good number of complaints, it would help Fizzer and Warzone a ton if you actually listed them out in a productive way. I'm just trying to help you help the game.

The thing is that lots of people agree with you and you don't seem to realize that, instead just attacking everyone like a five-year-old who just tried cocaine for the first time.

Edited 11/15/2017 06:54:32

Nope, I don't see enough criticism and I have been very specific in what doesn't work.

1. UI camouflage background looks kindergarten
2. Unity, which I used as a beta a year ago, sucks, it's slow and requires massive power. That was a year ago.
3. The name change is childish and even less palatable than Warlight. Warlight is stupid, warzone is even stupider
4. I'm only still playing because I have the option to use flash. I would actually stop playing after 7 years if I was expected to use unity
5. I don't see any improvements and all changes seem to be a way to finally sell out so that fizzer can sell the company