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I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 14:26:38


Little-Mouse
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I tried to learn this game and spent a lot of time for that, looking in forum for strategies, watching history and try to learn from my mistakes and talk to good players for advices ....
And now this all was for nothing, a nice game changed to... I am so disappointed. :'(

Edited 11/14/2017 14:28:04
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 14:32:59


Goatinho
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there are plenty of resources these days with games from mdl, clan league and now manager league to watch...

PS's channel in youtube has more than 80 videos with insight about strategic templates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTnh64g0Edo&index=2&list=PLjxyPjW-DeNX0Gs_1lOFh3I8HaGDc5sKz

if you feel like you want someone to teach you try to get into a good clan that is willing to do that
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 15:01:06


Little-Mouse
Level 42
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That's not the point, I dislike the new android app so much, no fun to play with this.... Why change a good app to the bad?
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 15:11:02


Goatinho
Level 48
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because flash will die

fizzer didnt just graduate either, the complains in the forums are loud and he will probably work to improve it

you'll still be able to use flash for a while though, just switch in the dropdown menu by clicking your nick
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 16:28:29


Bane 
Level 60
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the old app was missing alot of features.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 16:36:50


knyte 
Level 58
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Not to piss in your cheerios, bud, but it's not like the game changed. Everything you learned still works. You can even revert to Flash.

As for the bad styling, Fizzer doesn't seem too fond of it either (based on last night's livestream). If he doesn't change stuff himself, userstyles might help us out.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 16:41:11

Equivoque
Level 55
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You can play one vs one real time games now...he added the tab, take a look.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 17:31:10


Little-Mouse
Level 42
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@Bane adding a few new features would be nice but changing the complete app is something different. Anyway I just upset about my waste of time, on the other hand perhaps it's better spent more time with other things.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 17:52:29

TheUberElite
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"You can play one vs one real time games now...he added the tab, take a look."

And as far as I'm concerned you shouldn't be able to.

You can do the same with QM, I have only strat 1v1 activated, when I join RT QM I get a strat 1v1 game.

Having autogames available as well dilutes the playerbase and makes the wait time for a game longer in both game-types.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 17:55:00

TBest 
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Autogames is only temp. back I believe. They will be removed once the WarZone app gets live in App Store.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 19:15:28


Little-Mouse
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Just played this Quick game, it's ridiculous I get a template I never played and I not even could pick myself, the other guy won by picks already. What is that all about, I feel more and more messed around!!!
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 19:19:12


Bane 
Level 60
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You unlock more templates as you win. It’s designed to guide the noob experience.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 19:40:17


Little-Mouse
Level 42
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One of the most interesting part of the game is to set the picks if I not even can do that myself I won't waste my free time with this awful new app, thanks for the info Bane.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 20:26:00

TheUberElite
Level 23
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You have to win a whole '2' autopick games before getting manual picks.

So difficult.

Everyone's fast to whine about this before giving it a fucking chance.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 21:15:03


Little-Mouse
Level 42
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You are very impolite btw.
What is that for, why must I play this shit autopick games before. It is really annoying.
For a lvl 12 it is perhaps good to have at least a chance but not for players who know this game already.
So good for a beginner like you.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 21:59:26


Hashirama Senju 
Level 22
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Lol! if players comment on low level accounts, doesn't exactly mean they're beginners :P

I initially was complaining about Strat MME being removed and you need to win many games to unlock it on QM-but I realized that what Fizzer did is ok(not good, not bad).
A lot play autogames for fun and I have personally seen many players farming for high win rates and QM doesn't allow farming.

Everyone playing QM will have to play these templates and once you unlock it, you veto it if you dont like-I don't see any problem here, especially since players who topped all ladders also played these and I don't find any harm in playing these till i get strat mme or other templates that I like.

If you know this game already and want super strategic manual pick games, you can always join ladders.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 22:20:17

DanWL 
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As for the bad styling, Fizzer doesn't seem too fond of it either (based on last night's livestream). If he doesn't change stuff himself, userstyles might help us out.

Been there, done that. I was going to wait until 1 December 2017 and if some things still haven't been fixed, I'll fix it. Probably going to be a Userscript though - it is possible for use scripts to create HTML style tags and fill them with CSS rules. The script would also be more customisable and it would save having to split the main style into several smaller styles.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 22:22:12


Little-Mouse
Level 42
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I see it different but as everywhere in life we not have to agree always.
I just tell my opinion about the new android app. Surely some see it as improvement and others dislike it like me. But why make it not easier for player like me and give us the possibility to choose more on our own. I am old enough to know how I want to play my games. So I stick to my meaning, it should be an option to play strat mme from the beginning in quick games, I don't wanna scroll down every time to look for it manually or create one manually, that would be at least a improvement I would appreciate.

Edited 11/14/2017 22:23:20
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 22:58:36


celticfringe 
Level 61
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i bought a lifetime membership and now i cant even play on mobile its completely unplayable
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 23:17:01


Hashirama Senju 
Level 22
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winning 9 QM games to unlock strat MME isn't that hard.
I unlocked it playing auto-pick small earth only and after unlocking making it the only template is same as having 1v1 autogame.

there are few times, where players are given worst distribution-but that is auto-pick and the chances of getting such picks is 50-50 for each player and with win rate of 50% also, it takes just 18 games to do this. Which comes to around an hour or so.

I also have seen players, with bad starts winning over me and so I don't find it is just the picks that matters for the win.
I feel a little cheated: 11/14/2017 23:40:14


knyte 
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Sure, even if it's not hard for you, it seems to be annoying enough people that QM has a much longer wait than auto-games. Having to play through 9 games of cancer templates to unlock the baseline strategic template is not a good way to build up an initial userbase in your system.

I really wish Fizzer changes QM so that it starts with Strat MME unlocked (even if disabled so the newbie onboarding experience remains the same). Right now it's drawing a limited portion of skilled/old players, which slows down the matchmaking process and I think ruins it for newbies too. A beginner looking for their very first multiplayer game is probably not going to want to wait 5 minutes for a match.
I feel a little cheated: 11/15/2017 02:00:48


Hashirama Senju 
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I hardly waited for games to be created, in real time and if a player is regularly visiting the site, he can opt for MD games and don't have to wait till a game is created. Small earth templates aren't cancer templates and i find it easy and quicker than MME auto games(trust me, I have played very long rt and md autogames).

I agree that starting with MME is better, since it has been in auto-game section for long time and is in 1v1 ladder too. About waiting, it will shorten when more players play it-not sure of statistics of how many are playing.
- downvoted post by Nauzhror Insult Generator
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