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sincere question for trump supporters: 10/31/2017 22:34:17


Wally Balls 
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in what ways has donald trump made america great again?
sincere question for trump supporters: 10/31/2017 22:42:11


Major General Smedley Butler
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He's converted to Islam and led this country on the road to Jehad
sincere question for trump supporters: 10/31/2017 23:24:08


knyte 
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Within just one year of Trump's election, we've got WarZone on the verge of release. Could Obama have pulled that off?
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 00:08:49


{rp} eisenheim
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By setting a precedent for future Presidents.

How not to be a President 101, by Donald J. Trump.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 01:15:05


Clint Eastwood 
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In what ways would a socialist or criminal have made the country better? I've said many times that I'm not a fan of Trump, but an egotistical carrot is better than the other two options.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 01:55:32


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I don't know, Clint. Maybe you should as a 9/11 first responder. Or a kid who benefited from CHIP. Or someone who's gonna burn up taxpayer money 'cause they don't get health insurance via the ACA this year. Or a Trump-supporting Rust Belt worker who got laid off from their manufacturing job and would kill for a job training program.

You seriously think that someone who executed on political policies before she cared about votes, before she even ran for office- that that person would've been worse for the country than what we have now? We're talking about record-setting disapproval, chaos in the executive branch, burning up tax dollars on fucking golf, literally doing everything he said Obama was doing to our country. We're at the point in the business cycle where the expansionary period probably ends pretty soon and we deal with some decline (it's not bad, it's just natural)- you trust Trump over Clinton to handle a recession? You trust Trump- the guy whose presidency will see the death of net neutrality, whose already changed the system to make it legal and easy to sell private date, whose tenure has brought in the most consumer-hostile government we've seen in decades- over Clinton to bring about economic growth? A guy with 6 bankruptcies who just raised the deficit? A guy who bungled up Puerto Rico so hard it must've taken effort to fail that bad?

You got played, man. 7 bipartisan Benghazi committees concluded Clinton wasn't at fault. The FBI- after a comprehensive investigation that lasted a year- decided no reasonable prosecutor would waste their money taking her to court. But that's now what you rolled with. Nope, all the GOP had to do to convince wasn't proving their case, just burning our tax money on kangaroo court investigations and media circuses. Cause if you keep pointing your finger at someone long enough, it's not all that hard to make 'em look guilty or at least "suspicious." You think after a decade of running investigations on her, they would've been able to get her for something by now. If not, well, huh, a real-life Bond villain would've been pretty competent at running the country. What a surprise that someone so unbelievably dastardly, clever, and terrifying managed to not even win an election against one of the most unpopular candidates ever.

You got fuckin' played, mate. Doing something stupid doesn't make you an idiot, though- but continuing to roll with it does.

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sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 02:45:37


Major General Smedley Butler
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You seriously think that someone who executed on political policies before she cared about votes, before she even ran for office- that that person would've been worse for the country than what we have now? We're talking about record-setting disapproval, chaos in the executive branch, burning up tax dollars on fucking golf, literally doing everything he said Obama was doing to our country.

Record setting disapproval would continue regardless of the president, the chaos in the executive branch is largely irrelevant, complaining about golf was stupid when Trump did it and stupid when cucks did it.

net neutrality

A corporatist law causing inefficiency to the cost of the consumer dying is worth cheering over

A guy who bungled up Puerto Rico so hard it must've taken effort to fail that bad

I swear you're living in an alternate reality if Puerto Rico was handled as badly as you say, it wasn't the best but it wasn't awful, and it was on top of like three other natural disasters.

You got played, man. 7 bipartisan Benghazi committees concluded Clinton wasn't at fault.

k, it was a pretty minor incident blown out of proportion, to be truthful. Involvement in toppling Gaddafi is a much more serious crime that she supported openly.

Anyway, mutalistic socialism and free markets and post scarcity, not retrograde welfarist capitalism and war, ok?
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 08:03:07


Empire of Kilos
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By not being Hillary Clinton, that's pretty much it.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 08:46:39


Cata Cauda
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He is funny to watch, which makes the US entertaining to look at.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 14:33:24


Clint Eastwood 
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I just hope Ben Shapiro runs in 2020.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 15:13:46


Жұқтыру
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Cata, let's dismantle the United States of A******. Come on, it will be fun.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 17:14:12


The Cruelest
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1) I'd vote for Ben in a heartbeat.

2) I have to share this. Its too funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2BVI9OhC4
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 20:08:12


Japanball
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Ben is good at debating, doesn't mean he'd be a good politician
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 20:18:19


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^

Even if it makes sense, implementing policies and law is no child's play.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 20:45:27


Epicular
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k, [Benghazi] was a pretty minor incident blown out of proportion, to be truthful. Involvement in toppling Gaddafi is a much more serious crime that she supported openly.


This is what drives me fucking mad about you Hillary haters. You ignored the rest of Knyte's argument just to peddle another so-called "crime".

Knyte said:

if you keep pointing your finger at someone long enough, it's not all that hard to make 'em look guilty or at least "suspicious." You think after a decade of running investigations on her, they would've been able to get her for something by now. If not, well, huh, a real-life Bond villain would've been pretty competent at running the country. What a surprise that someone so unbelievably dastardly, clever, and terrifying managed to not even win an election against one of the most unpopular candidates ever.


To me, it is simply unimaginable that someone would actually read and comprehend this, then say to themselves, "hurr durr but her emails. Hurr durr Gaddafi." Jesus how many fallen-through controversies does it take? Seriously, what the hell is it gonna take before people admit she's not guilty of anything? I think there is literally nothing that she or any intelligence agency can do.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 21:58:23


The Cruelest
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@Epicular You are just refusing facts that you don't like. Hillary has survived because she bribed those leading the investigations. Comey, for example, had already decided to clear Hillary of the charges months before he had interviewed a single major witness, including Hillary herself.

Furthermore, the Obama justice department was heavily biased. They refused to investigate Obama or Hillary at all. Do you really think Obama would order his puppet Eric Holder to investigate the clear Democratic nominee? Eric Holder and the other justice department appointees openly stated their "brotherly love" for Obama.

Furthermore, these intelligence agencies repeatedly classified documents and refused to hand over these newly classified documents to congressional investigations or blatantly lied.

Remember when James Clapper was asked "Does the NSA collect data on Millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" and he responded "not wittingly." https://youtu.be/QwiUVUJmGjs?t=6m41s That was a blatant lie and he didn't serve a single day in prison for lieing under oath.

All of the investigations that Hillary claims to have survived were concluded with incomplete information from biased sources, who had a personal stake in the success of Hillary Clinton.

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sincere question for trump supporters: 11/1/2017 22:27:09


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How can you honestly say that what Clinton did in Libya wasn't at least a serious mistake, it led to the collapse of the country and civil war for six years, the oil industry that Libya depends on collapsed, and tens of thousands of deaths. And that's the thing about Clinton, it's not one bad thing you can just say "oh this wasn't as bad as it was", it's constant war pushing that has led to failure after failure.
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/2/2017 05:28:49


Жұқтыру
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what the hell is it gonna take before people admit she's not guilty of anything?


Daily reminder that Mao Tsedung was not found guilty of anything in official investigations. When will you foolish NATOers stop your propoganda ?!

Edited 11/2/2017 05:29:04
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/3/2017 12:03:37


The Cruelest
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Wow. It just came out from Donna Brazil, a Democrat, that the DNC was almost bankrupt before the primaries and Hillary bailed them out in exchange for running the DNC. Hillary literally bribed the scorekeepers of the primaries. Bernie was screwed before it even started.

This is the same woman btw that gave Hillary the debate questions. Disgusting.

Edited 11/3/2017 12:04:19
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/3/2017 15:15:38


Padraig
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I would suppose that President Trump voters could point to the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) having been quashed by the administration.

Given the effect that the removal of legal protections has had on a number of industries over the past 50 years I am happy to see its defeat.

The United States once had a substantial world class garment industry. That is no longer the case. There are still garment manufactures in the United States but the scale of the industry and of the cloth/fabric industry is reduced.

I find it very difficult to find US manufactured clothing in stores. The discussion of the difficulties that ATF Reproductions, a US manufacturer of reproduction ww2 era military uniforms, face is illuminating.

Why don't we make everything here? Cost and availability of materials. Many people insist that USA made shouldn't cost more than imported- that's a fantasy. Reality is very different. Military uniforms and equipment manufactured in the US will cost at least double or triple of those made overseas. This is a simple fact and the reason that so few of these products are made here anymore and very few people are willing to pay what it will cost. Compounding this problem, most of raw materials are no longer manufactured in North America at all. The majority of American (and Canadian) fabric mills have gone bankrupt in the past two decades. Even if we wanted to make everything here, we'd need to import the materials.


The majority of fabric mills have gone bankrupt. How pathetic.

Unfortunately the TPP also is said to have contained provisions for the protection of intellectual property. The Chinese have a reputation for copyright infringement - theft. So any good the TPP may have done is also lost.

And at the end of the day, when entire industries have been destroyed it takes time to rebuild. And where is the incentive to do so?
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/3/2017 15:33:15


The Cruelest
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^While that is all true, China was not in the TPP. The TPP was an attempt to create a unified free trade area in the pacific including Aus, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

The idea was the create an anti-china economic union in the mold of the EU which is an anti-russian economic union.

When Russia misbehaves (like when they took Crimea) EU sanctions cripples its economy while countries that do lots of business with Russia, like Finland, can lean on the EU for short term support.

TPP was designed to keep China in check in, just like Russia, in exchange for outsourcing American jobs.

America "Hey, guys. We will let you sell products in America with no tariff and take our jobs in exchange for following our orders on foreign policy."

The TPP was disgusting for everybody involved and I am glad it died. Both economic and foreign policy decisions should be made by the people who live in their countries.

Edited 11/3/2017 15:37:42
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/3/2017 15:59:51


OxTheAutist 
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ayo cruelest do you think self sufficiency is better than trade liberalisation and specialisation?
sincere question for trump supporters: 11/9/2017 08:44:32

Mindori
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When face with the choice between "giant douche" or a "turd sandwich" I vote for the guy in the funny hat. If more voters would follow that course of actions so that we could move away from a two party system I feel we would be better off.

As someone who did not vote for either, I will point out keeping the balance on the Supreme Court has been Trumps greatest achievement so far.

In the grand scheme of things, Presidents are just figureheads. Obama might have run on health care but it was Pelosi and Reid that got it passed. We had eight years of Obama that was going to cause the fall of the US but we are still here. We can take four to eight years of Trump without the end of the US.
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