Good luck to everyone down in Florida, and I hope you'll make it out OK. Things sound pretty bad.

Gl to Florida, but also to the Caribbean, hope you guys can go through this as well as it is possible...

Indeed, USA without florida would be like beer without alcohol.

>Florida
>Paugers' place

Woohooo!!!

>Hurricane
>Not fun
>Florida
>Paugers' place

WOOHOOOOO!!!!

not fun

I have heard it said that Class Five hurricanes can efficiently disassemble a wood frame building in about twenty minutes. According to the New York Times,

At 06:00 UTC on September 6, the center of Irma made landfall along the northern coast of Barbuda at peak strength.

Some 95% of building have been damaged and, the island is said to have been rendered "barely habitable." A similar treatment has been dealt out to Sint Maarten, and Ginger Island and Tortola in the British Virgin Islands. It is apt enough to describe the storm using superlative terms.

As of the 2:00 a.m. advisory on September 7, Irma had sustained 185 mph (295 km/h) winds for 36 hours, the only tropical cyclone worldwide to have had winds that speed for that long, breaking the previous record of 24 hours set by Typhoon Haiyan.

https://webcms.colostate.edu/tropical/media/sites/111/2017/09/Hurricane-Irma-Records.pdf

So, yeah, it is not fun.

Stupid Americans!-Why do you built houses without basement?

More like why do you not build solid houses? I saw some videos where your walls can bend like paper.

^^

-"Hey, I'm going to build a house in Florida."

-"Be careful, Florida is one giant flood zone when a hurricane comes."

-"No problem. I'll just build a basement."

"I have heard it said that Class Five hurricanes can efficiently disassemble a wood frame building in about twenty minutes. According to the New York Times,
"

That sounds super conservative.


According to Robert Simpson, there are no reasons for a Category 6 on the Saffir–Simpson Scale because it is designed to measure the potential damage of a hurricane to man-made structures. Simpson stated that "...when you get up into winds in excess of 155 mph (249 km/h) you have enough damage if that extreme wind sustains itself for as much as six seconds on a building it's going to cause rupturing damages that are serious no matter how well it's engineered."[3]

That's part of the wikipedia article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir–Simpson_scale

That portion is specifically regarding whether there is any reason for a 6th category to be introduced for truly powerful storms.

In Florida it is common practice to build using masonry units, this is primarily motivated by the numerous insects which will attack wooden structures with glee, but also helps buildings withstand high winds. Unfortunately building a highly resilient structure will not stop your windows from being blown out. So a counter measure must be designed. With most of the many efforts that can be made to storm proof a building the cost will increase. Not everyone will be able to afford that cost. If you are poor, it may be all you can do to build anything.

And if a storm surge buries your building under 18 feet (5.5 meters) of water, what was the point of all the money invested?

It is not a problem which admits of easy solutions.

Port cities are where they need to be. Their advantages and faults are inherent.

The same can be said of the many areas vulnerable to storm damage.

...when you get up into winds in excess of 155 mph (249 km/h) you have enough damage if that extreme wind sustains itself for as much as six seconds on a building it's going to cause rupturing damages...

I knew I was being conservative. I didn't know it was quite that bad. And there is no point in quibbling about the distinction between damage and destruction. Once your windows and doors have lost their integrity and debris is blowing through your home...

Your home has become a shooting range.

Regarding the Saffir-Simpson Scale it would seem that when you are in the path of a storm on the upper end of the scale, the best thing to do is run.

If you can do so.

I almost forgot, roofs they do like to go airborne in high winds.

Saffir Simpson Scale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgcQ1pF-g_8

A Lunatic in a wind tunnel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmJ8tXTcCfE

Don't worry man, my family went and bought some Guns, if that Hurricane messes with us it's fuckin dead!

In all seriousness, I'm not too concerned, I'm predicting at most I'll lose power for a day, my backyard becomes a pool, but that happens with a decent rain storm, and maybe a tree or two gets knocked down. Nothing I hadn't experienced last Hurricane, Miami on the otherhand, those guys are fucked.

Yeah... there's a decent chance that Miami isn't going to fare much better than Houston did after Harvey.

I wonder how much of Florida will still be above water after Irma passes through. Good luck, friends.

Speakibg of Paugers, where is he?

Vanquished by yours truly.

Excerpts from a GQ article by Jack Moore:

Earlier this week, Limbaugh made the disingenuous and dangerous claim that Hurricane Irma was a media-constructed hoax, designed to increase ratings and sell people on the idea of climate change. This was of course nonsense, which should have been clear...

Today it was announced that the talk radio host, who lives in Florida, would be evacuating after all. It's almost like the media wasn't perpetuating some liberal hoax, but rather was reporting things that were happening.

As a colleague at work likes to say, "You can't make it up."

That is Limbaugh, as in Rush Limbaugh the conservative radio host.

Edited 9/10/2017 02:26:55

Postmodern "architecture" i.e. flimsy wooden rectangles might be part of the problem.