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Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 19:46:33


Von Jewburg
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Good luck to everyone down in Florida, and I hope you'll make it out OK. Things sound pretty bad.
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 19:57:21


TeamGuns 
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Gl to Florida, but also to the Caribbean, hope you guys can go through this as well as it is possible...
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 20:06:02


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Indeed, USA without florida would be like beer without alcohol.
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 21:00:30

TabbyCat
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Good luck to Florida, Georgia and South Carolina. I hope you guys will do fine.
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 21:05:03

The warlight forum is not what it used to be.
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>Florida
>Paugers' place

Woohooo!!!
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 21:05:57

TabbyCat
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^Come on. I never experienced any hurricane. I assume that it is not fun.
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 21:07:03

The warlight forum is not what it used to be.
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>Hurricane
>Not fun
>Florida
>Paugers' place

WOOHOOOOO!!!!
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 21:10:15

TabbyCat
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^Why do you hate Paugers that much?
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 22:41:02


Padraig
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not fun


I have heard it said that Class Five hurricanes can efficiently disassemble a wood frame building in about twenty minutes. According to the New York Times,

At 06:00 UTC on September 6, the center of Irma made landfall along the northern coast of Barbuda at peak strength.


Some 95% of building have been damaged and, the island is said to have been rendered "barely habitable." A similar treatment has been dealt out to Sint Maarten, and Ginger Island and Tortola in the British Virgin Islands. It is apt enough to describe the storm using superlative terms.

As of the 2:00 a.m. advisory on September 7, Irma had sustained 185 mph (295 km/h) winds for 36 hours, the only tropical cyclone worldwide to have had winds that speed for that long, breaking the previous record of 24 hours set by Typhoon Haiyan.


https://webcms.colostate.edu/tropical/media/sites/111/2017/09/Hurricane-Irma-Records.pdf

So, yeah, it is not fun.
Hurricane Irma: 9/7/2017 23:16:16


#The Prussian Job-Oh yeah, baby...
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Stupid Americans!-Why do you built houses without basement?
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 01:17:13


Cata Cauda
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More like why do you not build solid houses? I saw some videos where your walls can bend like paper.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 01:39:34


gilead
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^^

-"Hey, I'm going to build a house in Florida."

-"Be careful, Florida is one giant flood zone when a hurricane comes."

-"No problem. I'll just build a basement."
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 02:52:23

Nauzhror 
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"I have heard it said that Class Five hurricanes can efficiently disassemble a wood frame building in about twenty minutes. According to the New York Times,
"

That sounds super conservative.


According to Robert Simpson, there are no reasons for a Category 6 on the Saffir–Simpson Scale because it is designed to measure the potential damage of a hurricane to man-made structures. Simpson stated that "...when you get up into winds in excess of 155 mph (249 km/h) you have enough damage if that extreme wind sustains itself for as much as six seconds on a building it's going to cause rupturing damages that are serious no matter how well it's engineered."[3]

That's part of the wikipedia article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir–Simpson_scale

That portion is specifically regarding whether there is any reason for a 6th category to be introduced for truly powerful storms.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 02:53:22


Padraig
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In Florida it is common practice to build using masonry units, this is primarily motivated by the numerous insects which will attack wooden structures with glee, but also helps buildings withstand high winds. Unfortunately building a highly resilient structure will not stop your windows from being blown out. So a counter measure must be designed. With most of the many efforts that can be made to storm proof a building the cost will increase. Not everyone will be able to afford that cost. If you are poor, it may be all you can do to build anything.

And if a storm surge buries your building under 18 feet (5.5 meters) of water, what was the point of all the money invested?

It is not a problem which admits of easy solutions.

Port cities are where they need to be. Their advantages and faults are inherent.

The same can be said of the many areas vulnerable to storm damage.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 03:08:21


Padraig
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...when you get up into winds in excess of 155 mph (249 km/h) you have enough damage if that extreme wind sustains itself for as much as six seconds on a building it's going to cause rupturing damages...


I knew I was being conservative. I didn't know it was quite that bad. And there is no point in quibbling about the distinction between damage and destruction. Once your windows and doors have lost their integrity and debris is blowing through your home...

Your home has become a shooting range.

Regarding the Saffir-Simpson Scale it would seem that when you are in the path of a storm on the upper end of the scale, the best thing to do is run.

If you can do so.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 03:37:23


Padraig
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I almost forgot, roofs they do like to go airborne in high winds.

Saffir Simpson Scale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgcQ1pF-g_8

A Lunatic in a wind tunnel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmJ8tXTcCfE
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 04:47:37


Empire of Kilos
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Don't worry man, my family went and bought some Guns, if that Hurricane messes with us it's fuckin dead!

In all seriousness, I'm not too concerned, I'm predicting at most I'll lose power for a day, my backyard becomes a pool, but that happens with a decent rain storm, and maybe a tree or two gets knocked down. Nothing I hadn't experienced last Hurricane, Miami on the otherhand, those guys are fucked.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 12:16:52

Nauzhror 
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Yeah... there's a decent chance that Miami isn't going to fare much better than Houston did after Harvey.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 12:38:36


Darth Darth Binks
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I wonder how much of Florida will still be above water after Irma passes through. Good luck, friends.
Hurricane Irma: 9/8/2017 21:22:55


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Speakibg of Paugers, where is he?
Hurricane Irma: 9/9/2017 04:10:38


Bane 
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Vanquished by yours truly.
Hurricane Irma: 9/9/2017 22:30:31


Padraig
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Excerpts from a GQ article by Jack Moore:

Earlier this week, Limbaugh made the disingenuous and dangerous claim that Hurricane Irma was a media-constructed hoax, designed to increase ratings and sell people on the idea of climate change. This was of course nonsense, which should have been clear...

Today it was announced that the talk radio host, who lives in Florida, would be evacuating after all. It's almost like the media wasn't perpetuating some liberal hoax, but rather was reporting things that were happening.


As a colleague at work likes to say, "You can't make it up."

That is Limbaugh, as in Rush Limbaugh the conservative radio host.

Edited 9/10/2017 02:26:55
Hurricane Irma: 9/10/2017 00:07:04


Wulfhere
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Postmodern "architecture" i.e. flimsy wooden rectangles might be part of the problem.
Hurricane Irma: 9/10/2017 03:11:22


Padraig
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The Roman Architect Vitruvius was famed for asserting in his book De architectura that a building should exhibit the three qualities of firmitas, utilitas, venustas – that is, it must be solid, useful, beautiful.

I have heard others translate it as firmness, economy, and delight.

Regardless a building should be strong, and should be able to convince us that is so. For my own part, what I have found objectionable about so much Postmodern Architecture is that it is ugly.

Two examples of late Roman architecture of the western Empire.

Santa Sabina, Rome: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/7055751.jpg

Basilica of Constantine, Trier: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q9z0suLgrh4/UUjH8Y2F_5I/AAAAAAAAG1Y/eP4yjkz4AnE/s1600/20130316-IMGP1962.jpg

If the buildings of this century look as good in 1500 years, we will have done well.

Edited 9/12/2017 03:59:46
Hurricane Irma: 9/11/2017 01:59:53


OnlyThePie
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Guys, Barbuda basically doesn't exist anymore. Its that bad.
Hurricane Irma: 9/11/2017 02:47:52


Padraig
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Some video of south Florida & the storm. One minute twenty eight seconds. From the New York Times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Kz-WnKzkI
Hurricane Irma: 9/11/2017 02:58:33


Padraig
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Video of Sint Maarten. one minute forty six seconds. From Global News.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhb2AsYJG3s
Hurricane Irma: 9/11/2017 04:24:07


Wulfhere
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More time and care should be spent designing buildings. Beauty and sturdiness go hand-in-hand - buildings build with quality over quantity in mind, with love and culture, will be perfected in every aspect. Aesthetically and structurally.

Edited 9/11/2017 04:39:08
Hurricane Irma: 9/11/2017 10:56:06


TeamGuns 
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To avoid catastrophies like these you have to work in three different fronts at the same time:

- Create building regulations that are sufficient to avoid homes and central service buildings (hospitals, schools, ...) from crumbling.

- Enforce current, and new, regulations so that we are sure to reduce as much as possible the risk created by hurricanes.

- Work on the big climate change picture, to limit the T° increase that is responsible for the violence of Irma and Harvey.
Hurricane Irma: 9/11/2017 13:11:25


Wulfhere
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Regulations don't work. Better let the free market take care of it. Less regulations = more money for people to invest in sturdier houses, maybe build their own.

Show data of increase in storm size and quantity to support last claim.
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