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"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 19:33:16


The Cruelest
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"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 19:49:36


Cata Cauda
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Europe as a whole > USA
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 20:12:59


The Cruelest
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There is no such thing as Europe as a whole. Every nation is so different that the idea of "Europe" is imaginary. Germany is far more similar to Japan than Belarus, Russia, or maybe even Greece.

The EU tried to define such a concept as "Europe" and it is falling apart because of it.

Even the geographical distinction of "the continent of Europe" is imaginary. By purely geographical measures the continent is called Eurasia or Afro-Eurasia.

Linguistically, there is no common European language.

There is no common European Culture either. Unless Finns turned their Introverts into Extroverts and started acting like France. Or if Greece worked as hard as Germany. Or if the Czech's went to church as much as Poles.

Finland and Germany are often pointed to as similar countries but how do you think Finnish style universal Male-conscription would go over in Germany? People would be calling Merkel Hitler.

When was the last time the Irish ate Hungarian Gulash? You don't even have the same foods.

Edited 9/4/2017 20:22:12
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 20:20:57


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Nice shitpost. Yes Europe is an idea. An indea of unity. Your attemts at dividing fail.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 20:23:42


The Cruelest
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If Europe is unified then when are you going to pay for your communal wall on Hungary's border?

If Europe is unified then why does Poland demand ww2 war reparations from you and won't take refugees? A unified Europe wouldn't act in such self-centered manners.

And I haven't even gotten into the Western Balkans. They definitely don't feel unified. They hate each other. And if the Western Balkans "Aren't actually part of Europe" as I hear so many Germans say then you aren't even using the geographical definition of Europe. You are just defending the EU.

Edited 9/4/2017 20:50:07
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 21:12:12


Onoma94 
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Ok. Thanks for letting us know.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 21:22:59


Cata Cauda
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The EU tried to define such a concept as "Europe" and it is falling apart because of it.
This is true, but not because Europe is doomed to be divided, but because the EU's execution of its idea failed. The EU is full of corruption and fails to face the real problems. Like illegal immegration in the last years - The EU was totally unprepared for that. Greece's economical downfall - totally unprepared.
The idea of an united Europe under the EU is the best that can to Europe and the only way to keep its strength. However the current version is more than a joke.

Edited 9/4/2017 21:23:44
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/4/2017 22:30:04


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I would liken the "union" aspect of the European Union to herding cattle together for the slaughter. The EU was founded upon the principle of White Genocide.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 06:32:08


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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We have to reform it hard.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 06:41:12


apollong3
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White Genocide


but of course!
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 08:05:49


DesertFox
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Germany is far more similar to Japan

Well, Germany was one of the countries from which Japan adopted most of it's modern aspect.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 10:06:56


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^ They were right to do so, god forbid if they copied the frogs we would see a VERY different Japan today.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 11:57:43


Zephyrum 
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So I can only watch anime because of Germany?

Fantastic. Maybe if we have another world war, we can have a season 3 of Konosuba!
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 12:05:03


Darth Darth Binks
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^ Rev up those war machines, boys.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 12:26:29


Padraig
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^Who said good old fashioned war-mongering was dead?

We don't want to fight but by Jingo if we do,
We've got the ships, we've got the men, we've got the money too...
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 14:18:27


DesertFox
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So I can only watch anime because of Germany ?

If we take the Butterfly effect into consideration, we can say yes .
Or on more strange phrase, Hitler created anime (on it's modern forms ).

How ?

Well,Germany started WW2, and during it made the Berlin-Rome Axis , in which Japan joined too. Im not sure if Japan would attack or not the Pearl if it wasnt part of the Axis,but since it done it , it brought America into war, which would fight against both Germany and Japan.
In 1945 , both countries were defeated, one in April 30, the other in September 2 (after the 2 atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ). Then it started the ''Japanese miracle '', when it started to reconstruct in such a short time its entire economy,infrastructure, etc.During this period, the Japanese culture started to modernize and adopted more western stuff.This brought inspiration to Osamu Tezuka , the father of modern manga and anime.I think most of you know that the japanese animation movies had been made since 1907 (the very first 'anime' had only 4 sec ). But only after 1950's it started to bloom, and to reach the fenomen we know today.
So, if Hitler hadn't started WW2 , who knows how the japanese animation would have been today.

[I like how we altered the original intention of this thread ]
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 14:42:12


Ranek
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^ oh please..

Germany is far more similar to Japan than Belarus, Russia, or maybe even Greece.

I doubt that. do you have any explanation for your statement?

When was the last time the Irish ate Hungarian Gulash? You don't even have the same foods.


do you think that this is one core ingredient for the European collaboration?
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 14:58:18


Wulfhere
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"Kalergi described his dreams for a One World Government with its foundations in the European Union. He hoped that the European project would go on to become the blueprint for a society run entirely by the global elite over a completely powerless population. He wrote that he wished to see the end of national sovereignty and self-determination and he believed that nationalism, and indeed the very concept of nations, could be demolished through multi-culturalism. He wrote that a society that was racially and ethnically diverse was one which was easily controllable by the political elite"


"While Kalergi’s text might seem to be a relic of a more authoritarian and intellectually warped era for the people of Europe, it is notable that he is still celebrated and honoured among key members of the European Union today. The Kalergi prize, otherwise known as the Charlemagne Prize, was created in his honour to be awarded to European figures who have helped to promote his plan. Among those awarded this prize in recent years are Angela Merkel, Herman Van Rompuy (the former Prime Minister of Belgium and first President of the European Council) and Pope Francis."
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 20:27:20


Major General Smedley Butler
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how do you think Finnish style universal Male-conscription would go over in Germany?

Well enough, it's only been six years since they abolished war slavery
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 20:51:32


Zephyrum 
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Hitler created anime (on it's modern forms ).


heils internally
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 21:14:39


OxTheAutist 
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^ They were right to do so, god forbid if they copied the frogs we would see a VERY different Japan today.
AAAAAAAAH FRANCE what a shithole, working similar hours as Germany and have a similar economy with a similar standard of living

the countries are POLES apart
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/5/2017 22:43:08


TeamGuns 
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I wouldn't necessarily see a problem with Europe paying for the wall in Hungary. They asked for 400 million out of 800, if we wanted to be really fair, Hungary should pay way less than that, just share it ammoung countries per gdp, that's fairer.

However, I would only support for Europe to take it's share under a few conditions:

First, give the totality of the border control to Frontex, aka get rid of the far-right militias that commit attrocities in Hungary.

Second, further increase the budget and manpower of Frontex so that it can properly function as an European border agency that is up to the task needed.

Third, Europe should do the same for other countries under migration-stress such as Greece and Italy. It's not fair that all these countries carry the hard task of taking care and sorting out of refugees while other countries look away from the problem...
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/6/2017 01:00:30


Wulfhere
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It's not really fair to force economic migrants on the people of Europe.
"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/7/2017 22:09:08


Gus squared 
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"We built a wall and the EU should pay for it": 9/7/2017 22:20:05


#The Prussian Job-Oh yeah, baby...
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Actually, Frontex can´t handle it. Frontex is a joke.
- downvoted post by Paperclip Maximizer
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