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The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/4/2017 10:47:02


Ranek
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What's the fuss about political correctness all about? Why is it so strongly addressed and rejected, these days?
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/4/2017 14:57:37


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it's since everyone in China has to be born and long-time communist in order to get anywhere, it's not a wonder that the country is so slow now. how about any party can be "correct", eh?

Edited 9/4/2017 15:13:51
- downvoted post by TabbyCat
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/4/2017 20:04:13


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George R.R. Martin "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”

To understand political correctness (or PC) lets go back to the Frankfurt school.

The Frankfurt School’s key to success was crossing Marx with Freud. They argued that just as under capitalism everyone lived in a state of economic oppression, so under Western culture people lived under psychological repression.

To "liberate" people from this psychological repression, they developed "political correctness" and "critical theory" some time after 1933.

Herbert Marcuse translated the abstruse work of the other Frankfurt School thinkers into books college students could understand, such as Eros and Civilization, which became the Bible of the New Left in the 1960s. Marcuse injected the Frankfurt School’s cultural Marxism into the baby boom generation. We know it as “multiculturalism,” “diversity” or just PC.

PC is evil because it seeks to control what can be said, and thus control what can be heard, and then what can be read and thought.

PC undermines democracy. One of the ingredients of a free election is that the candidates can speak freely. If you won't tolerate an election where nobody can criticize the incumbent's regime then you shouldn't tolerate an election where the candidate's speech is controlled.

The idea that PC fights racism, sexism, homophobia, islamaphobia, ect. is inconsistent. Surely, only when we allow the racists to speak their mind do we find out who the racists are. But in a PC society racists in the institutions (i.e. institutional racism) are pre-preemptively silenced for fear of losing their jobs. Therefore, the racists continue to infect the police, business, and government but their true nature will be concealed by their silence (and the PC that caused their silence) and they will be harder to root out.

The core of PC is that if you can shut a sexist up then you he/she will stop being a sexist. Instead, we are just violating their civil rights.

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”

Edited 9/4/2017 20:11:06
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/4/2017 21:52:23


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George R.R. Martin

Lmao
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/4/2017 22:28:25


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If you need to censor people in order to feel safe, you are very unsafe indeed!
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 03:01:08


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Spoon Clank
- downvoted post by Robert Le Chat
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 14:25:08


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PC induces irrationality through censorship. Hence I hate it.

And I thought it is just a formal or official parlance, that expresses politeness and respect, to avoid misunderstandings and polemics. so you are basically against censorship? - I cant see the connection with PC though.

The Cruelest, Im not sure if you're just trolling or an idiot. however thanks for your insights.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 14:46:19


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PC went too far when people started getting arrested and investigated for internet memes and espousing certain political positions, such as anti-immigration. Meanwhile the police mysteriously fail to act when Muslim migrants rape women in public.

Ranek probably has me blocked with a script so I don't expect a response from him. If his strategy is to block out people with actual arguments and only attack simple buzzword pieces like the response above, then his ultimate goal is simply to feed his own ego and reinforce his own views.

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And I thought it is just a formal or official parlance, that expresses politeness and respect, to avoid misunderstandings and polemics.

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The Cruelest, Im not sure if you're just trolling or an idiot.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 14:54:29


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PC went too far when people started getting arrested and investigated for internet memes and espousing certain political positions, such as anti-immigration. Meanwhile the police mysteriously fail to act when Muslim migrants rape women in public.
Do you have source for that or is it just the expression you got from your biased media?
Ranek probably has me blocked with a script so I don't expect a response from him. If his strategy is to block out people with actual arguments and only attack simple buzzword pieces like the response above, then his ultimate goal is simply to feed his own ego and reinforce his own views.
Ad hominem.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 15:16:57


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I respond to sophistry with sophistry. Otherwise it's not really fair. I cut people down when they need to ease off the ego juice. If you want to call out ad hominem there are a lot more examples in this thread than just that one.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 15:42:21

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The Cruelest, Im not sure if you're just trolling or an idiot. however thanks for your insights.

He's just an idiot.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 15:43:10

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I respond to sophistry with sophistry. Otherwise it's not really fair. I cut people down when they need to ease off the ego juice. If you want to call out ad hominem there are a lot more examples in this thread than just that one.

>says that he responds with sophistry
>while in reality, he isn't able to do that

topkek
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 16:01:22


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PC went too far when people started getting arrested and investigated for internet memes and espousing certain political positions, such as anti-immigration. Meanwhile the police mysteriously fail to act when Muslim migrants rape women in public.


when did this meme-arrest happen and what does PC have in common with rape?

Ranek probably has me blocked with a script


Wulfhere, who told you that? conspiracy theory?
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 16:35:15


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"The Communications Act 2003 defines illegal communication as “using public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety”. Breaking the law carries a six-month prison term or fine of up to £5,000.

625 arrests were made for alleged section 127 offences in 2010
UK

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/world/europe/germany-36-accused-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html

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The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 16:40:31


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^
including threats [...]

For record this has nothing to do with politcal correctness. Threating people should always be punished.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 16:54:17


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PC went too far when people started getting arrested and investigated for internet memes and espousing certain political positions, such as anti-immigration. Meanwhile the police mysteriously fail to act when Muslim migrants rape women in public.
Gonna need a lot of citations to prove this one lol. People are getting arrested for internet memes? People are getting jailed for having anti-immigration positions? If that was the case, surely Nigel Farage would be in jail? The police don't act on rape when it's a Muslim? That doesn't seem right in my head, feel free to source your claims.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 16:55:50


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BLM doesn´t matter.

And UK > USA. Everytime.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 18:56:18


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I respond to sophistry with sophistry. Otherwise it's not really fair. I cut people down when they need to ease off the ego juice. If you want to call out ad hominem there are a lot more examples in this thread than just that one.

>says that he responds with sophistry
>while in reality, he isn't able to do that

topkek


Faisal?
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 19:13:59


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Blue lives don´t matter. They are terrorists and racists and shoot Afro-American peeps everyday.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 19:50:47

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Faisal?

It's the real deal; the man known by many names: Fissel the Adduti, Faysal, 1416, anonym, name is anonym, Jacob, Joseph, Israel, Hamza, the Dexterous Strategist.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 20:08:55


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The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 20:21:46


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http://www.snopes.com/german-woman-fined-facebook-meme-refugees/
[Citiation needed]
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 20:35:08


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The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 21:31:04


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The legend of Faisal lives on.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 21:35:26


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^^interesting quote. this incident happened in berlin. an 62 years old woman posted several texts that included *incitement to hatred*, which is in Germany a criminal offense. she was therefor sentenced to pay a fine of 1350€. -> would you mind to show the connection with political correctness in that particular case?

Edited 9/5/2017 21:36:34
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 21:41:36


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Defending people who censor other people? I guess lefties are either fascists or stalinists hmmmm
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 21:42:54


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You now have multiple examples of people being arrested for arguing certain positions, now it's time to face reality.

"Hate speech" is considered a crime in the EU. That is PRECISELY the problem, regardless of the legal situation.
The Evil within Political Correctness: 9/5/2017 21:54:41


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She posted a picture with the caption: "Do you have anything against immigrants? Yes, Maschineguns and handgrenades."
This has nothing to do with "politcal correctness", but is a threat against a group of people - Hence its a crime.
And it should be a crime, because threats can turn into actual physical harm.

Edited 9/5/2017 21:57:02
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