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Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 01:02:39

Fizzer 
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Use this thread to discuss the new feature, commerce games. Announced here: https://www.warlight.net/blog/index.php/2017/08/sneak-peek-commerce-games/

Let me know what your impressions are!

Edited 8/4/2017 02:15:16
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 01:23:38


Bane 
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Sounds neat.

will there be any way a map maker can have a gold value thats separate than an army value for a bonus? I’d like to make a map that’s primarily for this game mode, but don’t want non members that’d play on it think its imbalanced because theyre playing normally.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 01:28:59

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will there be any way a map maker can have a gold value thats separate than an army value for a bonus?

No, but you can make a template that sets the bonuses to their commerce values and also turns on commerce mode, then just recommend people use that template. This is better anyway since your settings will likely depend on the other commerce settings, like army multiplier, city cost, and base income.

Edited 8/4/2017 01:29:14
- downvoted post by TeamGuns
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 01:35:09


Bane 
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I set up a quick multi game in commerce mode. It uses one of my regular templates and none of the commerce settings have been altered. Looking for people to join to see what it's like.


https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13913500
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 01:42:45


TeamGuns 
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Seems like someone censorsheeped the truth!

Either way, if anyone is up for a RT sneak peek game, send me a msg, I'd love to try it out
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 05:05:34


Cata Cauda
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This is gonna be a huge popularity boost to diplomacy games once it is available to everyone!



Seems like someone censorsheeped the truth!

Either way, if anyone is up for a RT sneak peek game, send me a msg, I'd love to try it out
I would have upvoted your post, but unfortunately my voting rights were taken away for reasons I don't know.

Edited 8/4/2017 05:06:46
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 06:06:18


Master of the Dead 
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Neat feature. I think this could add a nice layer of strategy. Hopefully we'll see some cool new templates! Maybe Fizzer should organize a template competition(can be strat/diplo) and get the WGL crew to stream it ;)

p.s - If my understanding is correct, "use gold to buy armies on specific turns" is the equivalent of saving a reinf card and playing it on the turn you want? Of course, being able to vary how much armies cost on each turn wasn't possible before(reinf card based on % of turn number was something similar). The city and income management is definitely a welcome addition as well.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 10:14:14


Rufus Shinra 
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Feel free to invite me for these type of games to test them out. ;)
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 14:33:52


ViralGoat 
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Feel free to invite me to these games too
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 17:05:15


Bane 
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Join the game I posted, then.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 17:22:32


ViralGoat 
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Bane, my Firefox freezes when I open that link in unity. And there's no way to open the game in the stand-alone version. Maybe invite me to the game Bane. Fizzer, anything I can do about that?

FAQ about Commerce games:

Q: Why don't I have income?
A: Commerce replaces income. Base armies becomes gold. Which means you don't have to deploy anything.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 17:29:20

Fizzer 
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And there's no way to open the game in the stand-alone version

Try Ctrl+G. That lets you go to games by link.

Which means you don't have to deploy anything.

Indeed! In commerce games, you won't get the "you must fully deploy" error when trying to commit, as you can deploy as few armies as you like. It's even okay to commit with 0 orders.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 17:45:18


ViralGoat 
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Wow, CTRL-G !! Is there a shortcut lists for unity? Should be added to
https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Hotkeys

Also I know U for autopilot in Unity (what else is there in Unity)?

Edited 8/4/2017 17:47:05
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 18:14:59


dabo1 
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Also I know U for autopilot in Unity (what else is there in Unity)?


ctrl + shift + m opens the mod development guide
ctrl + shift + , opens the mod development console
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 18:30:44


ViralGoat 
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Other observations: the more armies you deploy, the more gold it costs. So at some point (especially early in the game) it's not effective to deploy that many armies past the threshold where every army you deploy costs 2 gold each. Instead, it's better to divide your income between building some cities and army, instead of all going to army. In time, the gold you earn from the cities will pay off better than the armies you receive. Of course if the enemy is at the door, you should probably defend/attack, not invest in cities.

Is it possible that your income is so big that you won't have enough gold to deploy them?

Let's say first 10 armies cost 1 gold each, next 10 cost 2 gold each, next 10 cost 3 gold each etc. Also assuming no cities.

cost to deploy 10 armies = 10 gold
cost to deploy 20 armies = 10+10*2 = 30 gold
cost to deploy 30 armies = 10+10*2+10*3 = 60 gold

So if you have 30 income, but only 30 gold, you can only deploy 20 armies, and your other 10 armies are wasted?
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 18:48:49

Fizzer 
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So if you have 30 income, but only 30 gold, you can only deploy 20 armies, and your other 10 armies are wasted?

Those other 10 armies never existed -- you couldn't afford them. If you have 30 gold in those settings, you can afford 20 armies.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 18:52:13


Margin of Safety
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Could you consider adding bonuses that have a percentage-based return? All investments are currently linear, which is fine in early turns as the difference between a single army per turn can be huge... but the difference between two players earning 30 vs 36 per turn vs 5 per turn against 6 is the same. Why should a person in late-game strat 1v1 need to capture two more Central Americas to add 20% to their income, using the above example?
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 19:47:58


apollong3
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This sounds cool, actually
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/4/2017 21:47:36


The Hysterical Koala
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this looks really, really awesome. I'm sure Fizzer will implement it fairly well :D
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 01:35:10


Semicedevine 
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Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 01:40:48


celticfringe 
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no thanks
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 12:15:40

AstralKnight
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Will it be someday added for non-members?
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 13:26:36


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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*SOLD*
Kretoma is now a member.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 15:48:39


Krzysztof 
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So there's no plan to add this to Flash version (no matter member or not?)

Also, there's tournament bug associated - you can invite non-members to tournament with economy enabled, they can join without problems and 'Cannot invite non-members to tournament with economy' exception is thrown only when tournament is going to start (even if the last joining player is member)
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 16:32:38


ViralGoat 
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Could you add in the open games Unity filter games with commerce?
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 16:40:48

Fizzer 
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Will it be someday added for non-members?

Yes, when the Unity client is officially released. No word on when that is , yet.

So there's no plan to add this to Flash version

Flash is a dying platform, so I'm not planning to invest any more time into the Flash client.

Also, there's tournament bug associated

Good catch! Thanks for letting me know. Please avoid using commerce templates in tournaments unless all players are members.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 16:52:09


Жұқтыру
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No word on when that is , yet.


:/
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/5/2017 19:15:35


Bane 
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one spot open on the test commerce game i posted.
Sneak Peek: Commerce games!: 8/6/2017 04:58:12


ViralGoat 
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When creating a game, click "Change Army settings". Add commerce, clicking submit.

Issue: Back in the "create game" screen. It doesn't show that commerce was added.




Also, created a diplo game with commerce https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13922952

Edited 8/6/2017 05:01:23
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