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WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 16:57:23


Castle Bravo
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Ads on websites are displayed by multinational entities. All multinational entities must pursue a "politically correct" image, or else risk alienating their partners. This is why corporations like Google, Facebook, and CNN try to be as inoffensive as possible.

Sincere opinions are inevitable since man is cultured. That means media corporations censor by necessity.

Crowdfunding is the only way to have a free-speech platform but WarLight isn't crowdfunded; it runs ads. If follows that WarLight is in a truly unfortunate situation, as are any platforms that simultaneously want open discourse and ad revenue.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 17:01:57


Dexterous Strategist
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You're against freedom of speech. You only want your side to express their opinion, you don't want freedom for others.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 17:08:27


Castle Bravo
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idc about your stupid ad hominem.

But I digress.

I know there has always been talk among the mods about censoring the OT because it supposedly turns people away from WarLight. These are the same people that admit that the OT is not taken seriously. It isn't. No one has stopped playing the game because of the forums.

While censorship might be able to secure revenue, banning players for expressing certain opinions would drive down site activity and ultimately negate any extra ad revenue.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 17:16:14


Dexterous Strategist
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>says he doesn't care
>gives me a response
>shows he actually does care

Cognitive dissonance detected.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 17:19:02


Cata Cauda
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You should adress this to Fizzer and/or the mods and not the plebs.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 17:42:49


Paugers 
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*The blessing of membership eliminates ads*
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 18:13:50

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I do get Jared Taylor ads from Amazon though.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 19:08:10


Paugers 
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^Did you listen/watch the Jared Taylor interview with a Muslim woman on ABC radio? It's quite a show.

https://youtu.be/AjXIx9w8-ac
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 19:44:54


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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if you believe in crowdfunding buy a membership.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 22:02:44

DanWL 
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Do you understand that without ads, websites and companies won't easily be able to carry on running due website hosting costs, server maintenance costs, human costs, software costs and many other costs? The same applies to families. If you or your relative(s) or guardian(s) didn't have a source of income (via jobs/self-employment) then they wouldn't be able to buy essential things like food and drinks. Without food or drink, then you would die. A person dying is like a website/company shutting down and you don't want website or companies such as WarLight to shutdown/discontinue their services, do you.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 22:51:11


Castle Bravo
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I find your very basic example to be condescending and missing the point entirely. The point is platforms that expect to host controversial subject matter cannot rely on Google ads.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 23:16:30


Major General Smedley Butler
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Why should a risk site expect to host controversial stuff?
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 23:26:11


Castle Bravo
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This is a question I'm glad you asked.

Forums that have free speech produce funnier, more interesting content. 4chan being a prime example. A quality forum compliments its game.

Additionally I separate the forums and the game. Like I said before I don't think people get scared off from the game because of the forums and the OT is already treated like a shit post fest.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/7/2017 23:31:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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Yeah they are funnier, but when it conflicts with the original goal (running an online risk site), the original goal should not be sacrificed. You can't really separate the two since they're on the same site and get the same ads, so, while it'd be fun if we could migrate /pol/ to the off topic forum, it would come at an unreasonable loss.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 00:26:11


∞ Western Imperialist ∞
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''You're against freedom of speech. You only want your side to express their opinion, you don't want freedom for others.''

and?

''Why should a risk site expect to host controversial stuff?''

nice fallacy, can't assert a negative. Why should content be removed?

''but when it conflicts with the original goal (running an online risk site)''

In what way does the forum interfere with people playing the game?

Edited 7/8/2017 00:26:50
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 00:35:28


Major General Smedley Butler
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"nice fallacy, can't assert a negative. Why should content be removed?"

While it's not a fallacy and this is just shifting the burden of proof to avoid having to answer, I'll bite.

Controversial content, has, in the past, proven to be a nuisance in that it can get ads turned off. Since making people pay to play would severely hinder warlight's creative base and it's store of players keeping the open games alive, this is unreasonable. Crowdfunding, while it can work for something's, likely wouldn't work for something as big as warlight. As such, the simplest solution is to censor some content and preserve warlight as a game.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 00:55:27


∞ Western Imperialist ∞
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''this is just shifting the burden of proof to avoid having to answer''

nice projecting

>we should give in to the jews to spare peoples fwee fwees

truly you're an anarcho-capitalist
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 02:24:52


Benjamin628 
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minds.com is pretty good for free speech - Warlight is NOT the place for extreme political statements, regardless of Fizzer's alignment.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 04:10:52


Eklipse
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Why should a risk site expect to host controversial stuff?

Because humans are controversial. It's in our nature to be argumentative, contentious, outrageous,etc. Sure, there needs to be some baseline rules about what can and can't be posted. However, attempting to purge any and all content that could be deemed "controversial" is a witch hunt that will never end.

Edited 7/8/2017 04:11:05
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 04:27:08


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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''but when it conflicts with the original goal (running an online risk site)''

In what way does the forum interfere with people playing the game?


... google takes away ads, WL can't make money ... idk seems like a easy concept to grasp.

*also my original post again.*

if you believe in crowdfunding buy a membership.


Edited 7/8/2017 04:27:57
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 07:47:35


Rikku 
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"A person dying is like a website/company shutting down"

Wise words for Dan the man!
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 12:37:07


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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I don't know what i clicked or watched but i always get shit like ''Find your Muslim Wife'' or ''Find a Polish love interest''.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/8/2017 23:13:36


∞ Western Imperialist ∞
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''minds.com is pretty good for free speech - Warlight is NOT the place for extreme political statements, regardless of Fizzer's alignment.''

t dumblr
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/9/2017 00:09:23


Wulfhere
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"extreme" is meaningless "muh extreme ideology" is sophistry.
WarLight, free speech, and ads: 7/9/2017 00:24:50

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I was thinking about the same.
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