haha this is entertaining

Just because he said he CAN call people ignorant does not mean he HAS...

It's fairly ignorant to call the 4th racist, without knowing the history of the first 2.

Lawlz aiming a general comment at several anti-T4R posters. He called them "fairly ignorant" for calling the T4R "racist" (who said that, btw?)

Since no one called T4R racist, then his comment wasn't aimed at anybody. It was a simple statement of fact. Thus, he didn't call anyone racist.

That's rather flawed logic. He was perhaps using the wrong word, but it was clearly intended for someone, otherwise it would have no business being stated in the first place.

And you really don't need to speak for Lawlz, he's a big boy :P

It was perhaps intended preemptively, as in, "Anyone who calls T4R racist is ignorant". As to your second comment, lawlz doesn't appear to be online/checking the forum, and I always love a good debate. An argument will suffice.

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Or, more likely, it was in reference to Verzehrer's comment about how Nazi ideology was aimed at ethnic cleansing and how the T4R was glorifying an era which worshiped the concept of an Aryan race, which Lawlz translated into "Verzehrer called T4R racist and is therefore ignorant" or something along those lines.

As someone who studied German history through primary and secondary school and in college, I can affirm that there is something wrong about glorifying the military aspect of the Third Reich and forming a clan called the Fourth Reich :P

hmm anyways T4R is a non racist clan and we don't mean to offended anyone with the clan i'm sorry if you want for god sakes if you quit slamming T4R and everyone else i'll change my name and stay away from the public

so could you plz leave us only we only mean to have fun

Hey Fuhrer here. Don't have a bitch and whine at my members. I created the clan, talk to me about it if you have a problem. Or even better, just keep it to yourself. Either way, it's not really going to impact me much.

For a British person, I find the second world war very interesting. I don't find it at all surprising that on a game called "Warlight" (emphasis on War) there are other people with that common interest. With a clan system formed, is it so unexpected that there is a clan based on the military structure of Germany?
We are not Nazis, it is all roleplay. The clan bio is written to stop complaints like found on this thread. We are not Nazis, Neo-Nazis, fanatics or whatever we may be called. It is roleplay, it uses ranks. It's a structure and it works. We come in peace, we aren't looking for trouble, so don't bring it to us.

As for the misinterpretation people have that we glorify Nazism, we simply don't. People seem to very easily jump to conclusions and totally misunderstand things. Up until Hitler made his massive blunder in Russia, the Nazi military machine was pretty damn good. They took out France who had been preparing for war for 20 years, bombed the hell out of London and conquered Europe. If it was Napolean there's no problem appreciating that military structure?

I want to apologise, again, if anyone was offended. This is a game on the internet, it won't exactly ruin your life. We aren't Jew-hating Aryans, we're average people just like you. Quit making drama, it's a waste of time and energy.

Please can people just read that and take it in? I'm not trying to cause conflict here...

*claps* Thank you Fuhrer you are so much better at things than I am lol

Remember when Fridge told you to:

Stop acting like an imbecile.

It was some sound advice, you should follow it :P

oh by the way, why is no one complaining about the Mongols Clan? The Mongols brutally murdered and raped a lot of innocent people, but no one is concerned about a clan roleplaying as the Mongols? (no offense meant to your clan, just an example) See, this complaint can be made about every historically based roleplay clan.

he has a point lol

lol and I looked at the mongol clan page which discusses pillaging, slaughtering, and raping all opponents

It happened about 7-8 hundred years ago and no one who suffered under them are known to be alive today, as opposed to the Holocaust which happened only ~70 years ago and is still relatively fresh in our collective memory (society's) and the impact of their actions are still very present.

Get some perspective and stop asking stupid questions :P

you think the impact of Mongolian actions aren't still present? and why are we complaining about the clan trying to DISTANCE themselves from the violence, rather than the clan that EMBRACES it?

You wanna compare the Mongol conquests to the parents that were raised by veterans of WWII and lived through the Holocaust or fled from the Nazi/Russian/Japanese/Chinese military? Or are just being intentionally thick right now? The emotional impact is much more immediate, so yeah, there's a huge difference.

Yes, the effects of the Holocaust are more recent. but the point is that the mongols, in their bio, say "#Slaughter,Rape,andPillagethePosers",

while T4R says

"First off, I want to really stress that this clan does not glorify Nazism, nor endorse anti-Semitic beliefs in any way. The Third Reich is an interesting part of history and very easy to RP with. We don't mean to offend anyone of German/Jewish origins with the clan, name or any material here."

*claps* :') such beautiful words from T4R.