https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLH_w5kHJpA

Master of the Dead showed me this video to explain the STV process. I recommend watching it as it may answer some questions people have.

From what was explained to me, the quotas for each template type will be:

• 1v1: (14/(6+1))+1 = 3
  
• 2v2: (14/(3+1)+1 = 4.5
  
• 3v3: (14/(2+1))+1 = 5.67

I think those are the quotas for selecting templates, correct me if I don't know how to do grade school math. A template in the first round gets 3 votes or more and its automatically a selected template and excess votes are redistributed. Knowing the quotas going in is important for the clans.

@linberson, we will be using the Gregory method for reallocating surplus votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_single_transferable_votes#Gregory

How do you resolve surplus votes?

We'll use the Gregory method of surplus allocation.

What will happen when the last 2 templates finish with a 7-7 record each? will the Lynx (winner A) vote be the one that decides which of the 2 templates it will be or will the actual position on each list be looked at and whichever one is higher on average will be the template that will be played

Two templates cannot finish 7-7. If they do, their votes will be redistributed. Think of it as there being a total of 14 votes. Everyone has one "whole" vote. After the template you voted for has been selected/discarded, the "part" of your vote above the quota is redistributed(as a fraction). However, there can be a fractional tie during resolution. We ran simulations of the CL8 vote and didn't observe it once. If it does happen, our program will resolve the tie randomly.

Edited 12/20/2016 19:25:19

What will happen when the last 2 templates finish with a 7-7 record each? will the Lynx (winner A) vote be the one that decides which of the 2 templates it will be or will the actual position on each list be looked at and whichever one is higher on average will be the template that will be played

Two templates cannot finish 7-7. If they do, their votes will be redistributed. Think of it as there being a total of 14 votes. Everyone has one "whole" vote. After the template you voted for has been selected/discarded, the "part" of your vote above the quota is redistributed(as a fraction). However, there can be a fractional tie during resolution. We ran simulations of the CL8 vote and didn't observe it once. If it does happen, our program will resolve the tie randomly.

let's just do an example with 4 templates being A-D (3v3 scenario)

A - 4 votes
B - 5 votes
C - 1 vote
D - 4 votes

So in this case the C vote would get redistributed and this case for the example it will go to B making it

A - 4 votes
B - 6 votes
D - 4 votes

Now template B is the first template to be played in the but the votes on B will get redistributed over the last 2 template and those will be evenly spread making both A and D have 7 votes in total.

I wouldn't say this is a flow in the system but this might be the case since we got so few that are actually voting and you might get in 1v1's for example 2 votes on 7 different templates to begin with making it basically impossible to decide which of the 7 has to be left out since they don't meet the quota of 3 but there also aren't any votes to redistribute.

Now template B is the first template to be played in the but the votes on B will get redistributed over the last 2 template and those will be evenly spread making both A and D have 7 votes in total.

This could happen. But it's not a certainty. It didn't happen once with the CL8 votes iirc. But if it does happen, we're currently planning on using randomness. We could use other metrics like average rating of the two templates etc, but that would require changes in the program and rerunning all the simulations just to make sure it has no bugs. Not sure if I'm too keen on that, unless you insist.

Last season something like this was less likely to happen due to the odd number of votes that would be coming in so it's less likely something like this actually would happen if i'm looking at it that way

True. Another reason was the large number of templates that meant the vote was split more and so there were clear winners.

This is disgusting. Very very disgusting.

"1v1 Old Strat ME"
You mean like which one? 18% WR? The one without a blockade card? What for? Did you see results of CL8 template voting?? Nobody wants to play that garbage LMAO.

No LD, MA, army cap, no-split, commanders? Only WR is the outdated ladder template (NOT EVEN British Raj? I guess that was not popular enough from events like RPCL or Captain's League, as opposed to likes of Malvia or Laketown)? What's that, Vanilla League?

And again, which of the Final Earth proposed got in? Jeez what a noob chose those templates, map name supposed to tell everything about how it plays -.-

FOUR 3v3 templates to choose from? There is, like, one good 3v3 template in existence, are you kidding?

Not to mention Le Texas absent. That's very nonstrategic and nondexterous of the panel!

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read on WL forums since WG signup to CL9. Thanks for your attention.

#drama #clanleaguedrama #justwlthings #mandatorycldrama #imayhavetoexorciateyou

@onoma: all template links are in the submission for templates thread and all include an example game with the correct settings as they are being used (in that thread you also find information about the cards)

For the commanders the reason is simple. The league will be running on a custom CLOT which means every player in the tournament has to be able to create the games themselves and commanders being a member specific feature is excluded from the competition because of this.

And commanders dont add anything positive to the game in a strategic way. Doesnt belong in this league.

Edited 12/21/2016 08:54:28

@beren @motd : thx for clarification.

On another note, could you repost the unpruned template list? Maybe in a different gogle sheet or a thread? I like template collections! =)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F5G4hpEeRYCsniuIgDH-EO1T6gS3eQCaQtOo6mLx4IY/pubhtml

Thank you.

Just out of curiosity - there was talk at one point about diversifying maps, but we could theoretically end up with two guiromas, two africas, two europes and two strat ME WR's, is that correct?

Yes exactly. There is not two times the same map on 1vs1 for example though. Not ME and MME for example.

1v1

1v1 Guiroma
1v1 Strat Greece
1v1 Old Strat ME
1v1 French Brawl
1v1 Battle Islands V
1v1 Volcano Island
1v1 Malvia
1v1 Laketown
1v1 Belarus
1v1 Phobia
1v1 Yin'angzhou
1v1 Elitist Africa

2v2
2v2 Guiroma
2v2 Strat ME
2v2 Final Earth
2v2 Szeurope
2v2 Cookies
2v2 China

3v3

3v3 Deadman's Rome ( probably my best fit )
3v3 India
3v3 Africa
3v3 Europe

Edited 12/22/2016 13:54:40

David, what are you posting here? People don't vote in this thread.

These are the level requirements for each template. They are also listed in the CL doc: https://goo.gl/xT2dzg

	Name                    Level Requirement
1v1	1v1 Battle Islands V    41
	1v1 Belarus             41
	1v1 Elitist Africa      37
	1v1 French Brawl        45
	1v1 Guiroma             45
	1v1 Laketown            41
	1v1 Malvia              41
	1v1 Old Strat ME        41
	1v1 Phobia              41
	1v1 Strat Greece        51 or Maps Pack
	1v1 Volcano Island      41
	1v1 Yin'angzhou         45
		
2v2	2v2 China               52 or Maps Pack
	2v2 Cookies             41
	2v2 Final Earth         50 or Maps Pack
	2v2 Guiroma             45
	2v2 Strat ME            41
	2v2 Szeurope            45
		
3v3	3v3 Africa              37
	3v3 Deadman's Rome      45
	3v3 Europe              26
	3v3 India               45

Who chooses and why they choose for these templates to be the ones available for voting?