i agree jupiter was in prime position, that turn he could've taken scand and pulled a trick play to take west russia or hold central russia(depending on mannierhiems move) then turn after that he has brazil and he is home free. Im not even that good and i can see that

Mosquitero, shut up. You only make your clan look bad. I feel that it is not a big deal since it has been done so often in the past. But you continuing to attack the people that think it is a big deal is dumb. People are gonna hate on someone if they are good. Anonymous has a serious right to complain, he could have gotten to #1 in the same fashion if he wanted to. The rest have their opinions and you aren't gonna change them.

Mosquito, why in your second post did you say "Timinator surrendered in turn 4. But why, why?" and in your third post say "I dont give a damn why Timinator surrendered in turn 4". Are you just messing with lolowut (please carry on) or are you flailing around for a defence of the way GG manipulated the ladder.

Are they always so smug? Your 6th pick lead to a loss mannerheim, why do you think it is anything other than terrible?

I think you all are missing the fact that Mannerheim is 21:1 over the ranked sample, not 14:1. He had a loss that expired today, so he rejoined the ladder to leapfrog everyone. At 20:2, he'd still have an impressive record and be easily ranked #1.

@JSA: You have an urgent need to feel like God. I realized that in several other threads where your latent megalomania became visible. Go on like this, make my day :D. This thread has nothing to do with people that THINK, especially not the owner of this thread or you.

Thx TeddyFSB, i began to think i m all alone here. Believe me, i know about that 21:1 ;-).

'Your argument "Had Jupiter won this one like he was clearly in position to do so, then Mannerheim wouldn't be rank 1" is pure hypocrisy. There are plenty of ladder games out there that were not won by skill but due to being lucky by players later becoming no 1. '

How am I a hypocrite if I haven't become rank 1 off of doing such acts? How am I being emotional when I've only attacked your arguments with logic, and you've only attacked me with emotion?

Teddy, I'm not so sure that he would. Jupiter has sub 1900 rating, that would drop Mannerheim to close to 2100, I'd say. I don't know for sure whether he'd be first or second.

Mosquitero, if someone says something rude to me, I answer back in a similar manner. Is it wrong? Yes, I should not do this, but I make mistakes. But I use the forums for good as much as possible and I very rarely start arguments with people on them.

You only talk on the forums when someone says anything negative at all about [GG] and then you bite their throat off. You don't even use the forums anytime other than to be hostile. That's why I'm telling you to back off. Take lessons from Mannerheim. I am trying to do so myself. He's very calm on the forums and never even gets into arguments.

In a stroke of genius you say it yourself, JSA: "People are gonna hate on someone if they are good". And sadly this is all this thread is about. No further comment on my part.

Edited 11/20/2013 23:29:31

@mosquitero how many illegal drugs have you consumed in the past few hours? cause it seems like your arguments are invalid. Or you may just be stupid idk. Anyways i think Mannerheim is a good player, with that loss though i would have to disagree with you teddy i think that loss puts him down to 2100 and 3rd or 4th place. Maybe after 2-3 more wins he moves up to 1st but not right away.. Just my opinion

I was expecting much more from someone of your age mosquitero, really. You don't bring any argument, just defending your clanmates by insulting the others. I would say grow up but it's too late.

We are commenting facts, we are not implying, we are not whining, we are putting it black on white. Come with arguments otherwise just leave the thread of those who "don't THINK".

Edited 11/20/2013 23:33:45

JSA, yep, you are right. Flipping that win to a loss gives:

Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Roo 2210 210 157 17 82% 1943 0%
2 Mannerheim 2202 235 162 22 91% 1808 0%
3 TeddyFSB 2193 145 119 34 82% 1912 0%

http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Ladder_Ranks_and_Ratings

Edited 11/20/2013 23:42:13

I meant 2200 instead of 2100 when I stated above. But yeah, I knew he would be borderline first but I figured he'd be a little bit short. One win above somebody 1900+ and I think he'd have it though.

It's been a while since I used that rankings calculator, thanks for the link! Also, it's relatively easy to use that information to make your own ladder (while not automatically updating) if you ever wish to.

wow guys... why is everyone getting so fucking pissed?

Mannerheim adnd Jupe were playing the game with fog... maybe at that moment Jupe thinks it looks bad and surrendered... why not? Many of us tend to surrender early.

why the fuck is everyone getting pissed? jealous that your best scores were #2?

Relax...its just a game. Manner's streak is also very good and he's no doubt a very good player... he deserves that #1...

Well done Manner!

Brain, nobody got pissed tell mosquitero jumped in. A few people said it was suspicious and not really deserved, but nobody's arguing that Mannerheim is a very good player or that he wouldn't have reached #1 after a couple more games anyway. They only started on that after mosquitero came in. Take a look back if you don't believe me. I like Mannerheim and it is very likely he would have got #1 after one more win anyway, but I think it's the principle behind it that people don't like.

what if there really was no plot or anything in that game? I'm not GG or Relite but this is just silly.... Why are you ruining Manner's day when it was Jupe that surrendered early?

This is all just assumptions and baseless accusations. Leave them alone until you find proper evidence.

This thread is fun. We got Seeing Red the Italian Bull and JSA Bullshit chasing Mannerheim the Matador. And to protect the matador, Mosquitero the GG Clown averts the bulls' attention. I want more!

Edited 11/21/2013 08:06:31

So maybe someone now tell me why it is allow to use such a words like "wtf" wich what the **** in a short, that makes the agression and brakes the forum rules, especialy if its in the title. I don't remember correctly but i think two weeks earlier i did get banned for using the word starts from "f", so my conclution is if there are equal or/and more equal people round here or why is that happenning? This hole thread should not start like this. And guess what maybe i would have won that game, maybe do not but i just feels like Manner deserves to win there and i was just about to quit ladders because of i wanted to concentrate on 20 and i quited all my ladders except 2vs2, so leave this as it is now. Lets see how long he can stay there.

Shuai isnt the bull and the matador spanish instead of italian?

Yes, but this bull just happens to have a large squabbling family, whose matriarch is an astoundingly good cook!