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Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/27/2016 18:02:36


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Booting date: 11/07/16
Reporting date: 16/07/16

At least 5 days minimum late.
(I am now assuming that Jinxed reported it late(his retirement) and the clan did its best under the circumstances)

It is a negligence problem that 101st has responsibility anyway.


I disagree and find it unfair that you are judging a clans actions when you don't know internally how the clan works. When the booting happened on the 11th it came clear that Jinxed had an issue, Instead of invoking rule 6 which in my mind meant a lot of trouble for the clan league re-organising and it being unfair on other clans leading to players complaining, So I instead wanted to try and get Jinxed account information so instead of remaking games, I can simply give the account info to someone in 101st with authorisation by clan league council. What went wrong is Jinxed forgot to send me the password meaning I was left with no other option but to invoke rule 6, Just to be clear I tried my utmost best to avoid putting rule 6 in place and I tried fixing a issue which delayed the reporting of the boots. So, If you wish to call me negligent for trying to avoid a scenario such as this. Go ahead.

Anyways, Too bad Jinxed could've had the chance to play you as I personally rate Jinxed highly as a 1v1 player. I would've rated his chances highly vs Metatron but I will put someone against you and I hope , my clan and probably the majority of the people following division B would prefer the 101st player winning. Hopefully for my sake it proves to be the case, You can win humble or you can win arrogantly.

(I have to admit he was the only one who was a challenge to me in Guiroma.)


Enough said.
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 08:07:22


Phoenix
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In Guiroma most players were not experience in the map in this clan league, that is why i said only Almoststicky was a challenge.

It has nothing to to with humbleness/arrogance but honesty.


I won mostly because most players did not focus enough attention on the best strategic positions, you can watch the games and see it for yourself.

As Mifran pointed out, i'm sucking badly on final earth simply because I suck at that map(little experience) and my team m8 is not active enough to make any discussion on our moves.

"I disagree and find it unfair that you are judging a clans actions when you don't know internally how the clan works. "

I did not judge anything, I stated the obvious that it is their responsibility anyway.

If you have a member that does not play his games it is 101st responsibility, which 101st took by doing their best under the circumstances.

It is clear to me that according to you Jinxed not only failed at warning you of his retirement but also failed at giving you his password in time before the league.

According to what you said Jinxed negligence brought all this to pass.

101st is responsible because they used Jinxed as their representative in clan war, that is all.

As far as I know 101st already took responsibility by the actions you yourself took to fix the problem.

I am being attacked here just because I am pointing out the obvious?

Edited 7/28/2016 08:08:38
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 09:59:19


linberson 
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He's clearly a kid 'cause he does his homework.


=D
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 10:17:56


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negligence
ˈnɛɡlɪdʒ(ə)ns/
noun
failure to take proper care over something.
"his injury was due to the negligence of his employers"
synonyms: carelessness, lack of care, lack of proper care and attention, dereliction of duty, non-performance of duty, non-fulfilment of duty, remissness, neglectfulness, neglect, laxity, laxness, irresponsibility, inattention, inattentiveness, heedlessness, thoughtlessness, unmindfulness, forgetfulness; More
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breach of a duty of care which results in damage.


Deluded Italian! :P

It was certainly not a negligence problem on my part I did everything by the book as far as I'm concerned and before you call out someone on a word at least know the definition first. Yes maybe I should've just called out the retirement rule instead of trying to save myself posting on forums and trying to get hold of jinxed account so simply someone can play on.
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 10:46:16


Phoenix
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"It was certainly not a negligence problem on my part"

Did I ever say it was?

I said its is a negligence problem, 101st's negligence since Jinxed negligence reflects 101st.
I mentioned the 5 days to answer the question and prove that 101st was late.
It is not the reason why it is responsible.
It is responsible because 101st as a clan is responsible for jinxed actions.(in this case negligence)

The retirement should have been announced to the administration before clan league started.

(I am assuming jinxed is the guilty part here even though I have not heard his side of the story, so I might be making a wrong assumption)

Did jinxed join can league representing 101st?
Yes, so it is 101st negligence if he failed at informing the administration of his retirement before the league started.

Failure to take proper care over something.
Yes and it fits exactly what 101st did, it failed at informing administration of jinxed retirement before the league actually started.
Jinxed committed picks for those games before retiring so he is guilty of negligence= 101st is guilty of negligence.

It has nothing to do with you or anybody else in 101st unless he warned you before clan league started that he will be retiring. Even though he should have warned the administration too before he accepted the position.

Retiring in the middle of a league is unexceptionable in my books.

Why are you still insisting that I am accusing you of something?

You are not 101st, you represent it, just like Jinxed represented it.

If a player in VIW is a total noob, VIW has a member which is a total noob, it does not mean that the entire clan is a noob or that it's leader must be a noob or must be balmed for having a noob.
VIW is just responsible for the credit of having a noob in the clan and probably they will try to fix that by helping out the noob to get better.

I cannot understand why you wish to have all the BLAME of all the actions done in 101st by its members.
You are just a member that will try to solve the issues 101st has responsibility of, nothing more.

Edited 7/28/2016 11:39:20
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 12:11:37

Mike
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To avoid abuse, couldnt a retired player be excluded from any come back to CL until the end of the following season ? If so the clan would think twice before invoking rule 6.
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 12:41:17


Phoenix
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yea some more specific to the situation rules could help a lot.
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:04:40


TeamGuns
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Hmmm I doubt jinxed is coming back or that plat would let him play the end of the season. Even with replacement games his retirement did cost us some points after the first unexpected boots.
Clan League 8 Group B - Retirement: 7/28/2016 18:27:35


Onoma94
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wow CL1 and CL2 were total bootfests and nobody was complaining on forums about that

I sympathize with & feel sorry for teams destroyed by boots but this discussion feels like it won't go anywhere unless you'll come up with a way to 100% prevent people from getting booted/leaving Warlight.
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