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But the droppings of the atom bomb on Japanese cities really illustrated the destruction it could cause to the world, and America was in possession of this superweapon. When firebombing cities, they targeted cities that would be more flammable. The purpose was to maximise the fear of opposing the military might of the USA.

Yeah, Stalin didn't think much of the bomb and I don't think any of his informants actually saw it so they couldn't pass along much except some readings that most folk would tune out. This would have intimidated lots of folk.

They didn't need to get it, and if Japan kept Korea as a puppet, guess what, no Korean War and no split Korea.

Wow, Japan keeping Korea was a good idea? The Japanese committed cultural genocide in Korea, they forced the people to change their names to Japanese ones, forced them to speak Japanese, and to conform to Japanese culture and standards.

Japan sucked all of the resources out of Korea, tried to destroy its culture, and massacred or jailed any dissenters. You think Japan keeping ANY territory outside of Japan was a good idea? Fuck you.

Wow, Japan keeping Korea was a good idea? The Japanese committed cultural genocide in Korea, they forced the people to change their names to Japanese ones, forced them to speak Japanese, and to conform to Japanese culture and standards.

It's better than chopping it in two and handing it to dictators hell bent on conquering the other side, which would result in more than two million deaths and a possible chance of nuclear holocaust. Note, this wouldn't have to be permanent and the US could later start separating Japan from Korea, and Japan could be forced to decolonize it.

You think Japan keeping ANY territory outside of Japan was a good idea? Fuck you.

It did keep territory outside of Japan, Okinawa.

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Guys, I'd give up arguing with MGSB, he's an anarcho-capitalist so his very political core makes absolutely no sense

Capitalism doesn't require the state, now how is fascism and Christianity compatible without breaking the tenets of Christianity?

Here's all the reasons I could think of that someone would think capitalism requires a state.

PROTECTION

Protection can be provided privately, as evidenced by current private security firms.

CURRENCY

Currency is just an item used to facilitate trade. While this is normally associated with governments as they tend to make their own, currency can be created privately, as evidenced by Bitcoin.

INFRASTRUCTURE

Infrastructure, at least in the US, is paid for by tax money and done by construction companies. Government is an unnecessary middle man in this.

HUMAN NATURE

This argument is kinda dumb, no offense. Humans like other animals and predispositioned to not want to cause harm to one another. This is evidenced in that trade, society, and peace exists between humans.

(If you have some problems with this Paugers, I'd be willing to talk about it in a mail thread.)

^ Tell the truth MGSB, you were kidnapped and brainwashed otherwise you would be triggered by now.

I want the old MGSB back. I loved the way he cringed me.

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Another argument for the bombings I came across - Japan had a kill order for all 100000 or so POWs in their camps. Had we not finished the Japs then and there, it is almost universally believed by the POWs and others that they would have all died.

This was to happen if any invasion attempt were to be made. An invasion could have been avoided of Japan anyway. One of those generals had a great solution still using the bomb, using it on that forest composed of large trees.

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It's better than chopping it in two and handing it to dictators hell bent on conquering the other side, which would result in more than two million deaths and a possible chance of nuclear holocaust. Note, this wouldn't have to be permanent and the US could later start separating Japan from Korea, and Japan could be forced to decolonize it.

It would mean the continued exploitation of resources and the people, and the Korean War was inevitable in any case unless it could somehow remain part of Japan until the 1990s, when the Soviet Union fell.

Okinawa was occupied by the USA for almost 30 years, and it was part of Japan from a long time before World War 2. Also, Okinawans actually want to be part of Japan, unlike Koreans.

It would mean the continued exploitation of resources and the people, and the Korean War was inevitable in any case unless it could somehow remain part of Japan until the 1990s, when the Soviet Union fell.

All governments exploit people in their country, and the Korean War was not inevitable, since a united Korea couldn't war itself. I might be wrong here, but Stalin agreed with FDR to have Korea be a independent entity, but Truman came and mucked it up, so in any case, it could remain only nominally under Japan for a while, maybe only a few years.

Okinawa was occupied by the USA for almost 30 years, and it was part of Japan from a long time before World War 2. Also, Okinawans actually want to be part of Japan, unlike Koreans.

Yes, you could probably consider Okinawa to be somewhat of a US colony, but they still followed Japan's laws and were taxed by them. Also, India had been apart of Britain for even longer than Okinawa was apart of Japan, but I guess that is harder to compare considering India couldn't really be as well Britainized as Okinawa Nipponized.

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All governments exploit people in their country, and the Korean War was not inevitable, since a united Korea couldn't war itself. I might be wrong here, but Stalin agreed with FDR to have Korea be a independent entity, but Truman came and mucked it up, so in any case, it could remain only nominally under Japan for a while, maybe only a few years.

Japan went far beyond mere exploitation, they attempted to eliminate Korean culture, like I've already said. If you think a country can't war itself then guess you've never heard of a civil war. There were plenty of communists in Korea, especially in the north, and I'm guessing they wouldn't be thrilled with living in a united capitalist country.

Japan committed terrible acts in Korea and almost all of East Asia, allowing them to keep territory from their brutal imperialism would be unacceptable. The atomic bombs were good not because of revenge, but because it at least allowed for Korea to retain its own identity.

If you think a country can't war itself then guess you've never heard of a civil war. There were plenty of communists in Korea, especially in the north, and I'm guessing they wouldn't be thrilled with living in a united capitalist country.

A United Korea would be preferably a democratic state, where these things can be handled more or less in parliament. Worst case scenario is a Syngman Rhee though, and in that case, there most definitely is a chance of communist uprisings.

Japan committed terrible acts in Korea and almost all of East Asia, allowing them to keep territory from their brutal imperialism would be unacceptable

Letting them keep territory nominally for a small time is better than extending a war killing millions.

The atomic bombs were good not because of revenge, but because it at least allowed for Korea to retain its own identity.

Korean culture lasted 45 years under Japan and was not extinguished. It could last 5 more under a Japan directed by America.