Targeting civilians can be a effective tactic when engaging warfare. Depends on the context of the situation.

Meh, I can change my mind on issues. Not really fixated on them or obsessed about it. Unlike some people who have a vested interest in preserving their ideas/views (ie: religious people rejecting the possibility that they could be wrong) Just looking for truth. If you have convincing alternate evidence I will most likely change my mind. mmm

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Frankly, I think I need to sit down and go play a game. Bye and thank you.

Sorry guys, but you seem to have forgotten that the Japs Sneak attacked America first. So arguing over a nuclear bomb isnt really what its about. If you sneak attack a country you open yourself up for unregulated warfare.

Well ya. But it appears we could have done it differently to reduce casualties on both sides. They were also gonna surrender. I recall that the USA misinterpreted communications between the Japan. It was like "i gonna think about surrender" and the usa thought it was "NO"

mmm. Say someone sucker punches you. Ok, you beat the nigga to a pulp. But to what extent?

do u KILL it ?!!??!!?

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Japan is PE

well YA

it is PE

but to wat extent do u dish out damage. there a point where ur enemy know tht they fucked up and regret it

they were on da surrendering table. i still hold the view that they shouda taken any deal or DIE but meh wat happenend happenend

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This is the point where WACO starts revising the chat and creating a WACO revisionist history.

These are my Comments below , im not sure what WACO said, because it was all been revised to fit the WaCO Jap propaganda Machine.



"when the rice starts popping from the radiation"

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and stop editing all your responses WACO
JAP

i think the ultimate decision that led them 2 surrender was the soviet union invading

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/

and i like to fine tune/refine my posts

wee

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Some people would call that revisionism.

Either way I think we both agree the sneaky Nips shouldnt have snuk attacked the US. And they got what the deserved for their treachery.

Either way I think we both agree the sneaky Nips shouldnt have snuk attacked the US. And they got what the deserved for their treachery.

ya!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/14/historians-soviet-offensive-key-japans-wwii-surrender-eclipsed-bombs.html

ok it fox news but the article seem ok...

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The simple option that would of had the same effect but not cost all those lives. Drop the atomic bomb in the ocean near Japan. This would have scared the hell out of them but no one would have died.

Personally I believe the bombings were an act of evil and I will never believe they were a good thing to have done.

Also it irritates me when people say not declaring war in the real world is bad. Come on there are no rules of war and anyone who believes there are is a bit thick. In war your only aim is to fight for what you believe in, a surprise attack just gives you an advantage.

Never mind Pearl Harbour, never mind the the Nanjing massacre. Never mind the fact we are in the deadliest war in human history, we can't offend our enemies!!!

I find it a hilarious luxury how self apologetic and hating some people are.

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I love it when MGSB gets triggered...he pulls out the ''Nazi'',''Government dog'' and many more cards everytime he is pinched.

Government dog

we can't offend our enemies!!!

Never said you can't call them racist names. Just said you can't go nuking civilians and try to say you're better than them.

^ Cringe me more, i like it.

Statheist

There's no way in hell the Japanese would've given up by November without a landing by American Forces, or Atomic bombs.

"But Pie! Why not just drop a bomb in the ocean to spook them?" First, we only had three on hand, let's not waste one by dropping it on some fish and poisoning the sea. Second, we sent warnings in leaflets, they were ignored and confiscated by the Japanese government. Scare tactics didn't work.

"But Pie! Surely dropping nuclear weapons on so many civilians was unjustified!" Except when you look at the statistics and stories, every last man, woman, and child was trained to fight to the death with whatever they could find. There were often less Japanese captives than there were bullets in a magazine.

"But Pie! The Japanese proposed a surrender offer that the Allies rejected!" That's because the offer left most of the Japanese empire intact, it just turned many regions to little puppets or returned them to their previous rulers, and they kept a large portion of China. It also left their government around. The Allies had already agreed on unconditional surrender, and they needed to get it.

"But Pie! The Japanese government was about to unconditionally surrender anyway!" Except even following the second atomic bomb,and the declaration by the Soviet Union, the council who decided such a surrender was STILL split 50/50. It took intervention from a man who was regarded as an actual GOD to make them end the war. That really doesn't sound like "about to surrender" to me.

"But Pie! America is evil and the killing of innocents is something only they perpetrated!" And yet the Japanese slaughtered millions of innocents, including their own citizens and soldiers (via suicidal culture). The Americans aren't the friendliest military monsters in the world, but they look like the damn Swedes compared to the Japanese.

Stop giving America shit for something they did, AND APOLOGIZED FOR (which they shouldn't have done), when the Japanese haven't even admitted they did anything yet.

existing is what they did wrong