Since Knyte missed the single matchup results, here they are since motd's last update (15/7/2016):

Hades beats Brisk on Strat ME SR

Oh beats miyagi on Guiroma

Turkish beats Bjarke on Battle islands

Lynx beats WG on Great lakes

I've probably missed some in the 1v1's, but can't be bothered to click on all the ones I dont expect.

buns can never be bothered don't you understand from the name? buns, buger, cheese!

@Buns: Thanks for covering for me there. :P I'll catch those in the future.

Turtles only have points from the 1v1s and are still top 3 :o

Earlier results tend to get skewed a bit because some players finish their games faster than others. In y'all's case, Buns and Turkish are playing pretty fast and have real solid records, so there might be such a skew in your favor. We'll see as things progress, but so far the players with fewer games finished haven't had the great starts we saw with Buns and Turkish.

They've only finished one team game so far tbf.


Great update knyte; big fan of that!

Amazing update, but next time tell deadman before. He hates partial updates.

@Jefferspin: I believe I've taken over from Deadman as far as thread updates go. I can also take over sheet updates if no one else is doing them.

Games finished since Buns' partial update:

Treasure Map: Nackickwind (Icelandic Turtles) beats 13CHRIS37 (Apex) - https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11509949 - Nackickwind is now 3-0 while 13CHRIS37 is 0-4 (ceiling is now 4th place); this also narrowly puts Icelandic Turtles at #1 in terms of points behind

Battle Islands: Ze (French Community) beats Andersault (WG) - https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11413573 - WG's dysfunction continues as they fail to get their success rate up- WG is now 1-1 in the tournament while French rise to 2-0. French also get just a tiny bit closer to the podium but the gap's still formidable. Until this update, Andersault was the only WG 1v1 player with a winning record- now WG's 1v1 records range from 0-6 (French Brawl) to Andersault's 1-1- nothing better than even.

Edited 7/19/2016 11:44:25

Games finished since last update:

Strat ME 1v1: Buns157 (Icelandic Turtles) beats Hades (Lynx) - https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11588620 - Buns snatches 4-0 from the only other undefeated player in the tournament. Icing on the cake is that this builds the Icelandic Turtles' lead at first in terms of points behind (well, it's partly offset by their loss today but hey) and finally gives them an outright lead in terms of points won.

Battle Islands: Andersault (WG) beats JV (GG) - https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11457751 - Andersault climbs to 2-1 while JV falls to 1-2 in this battle of the 1-1's. This doesn't really get WG much closer to GG (still about a 30% difference in success rate)... but, combined with another WG win, helps them break into the double digits for both points won + success rate

Final Earth: Oh Noes/Mirror (WG) beat Kosmitow/USA Biches (Icelandic Turtles) - https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11413592 - In the first finished game of the Final Earth 2v2 tournament, WG ekes out yet another win- this time against the Turtles, securing a pretty strong upset against the current #1 clan.

Great day for both the Turtles and WG! WG nearly doubled their success rate- from 9.09% to 17.81%. And they more than doubled their total points won!

Edited 7/20/2016 18:58:07

In terms of the top 3, master and turtles are getting ahead of lynx in points won percentage (damn you buns). However the forecasts still have turtles falling down in the team games to 3rd, and it being a close fight between masters and lynx, one forecast saying masters will take it by a point, the other saying lynx will take it by 2. (how are those forecasts worked out btw knyte?) I feel like masters will take it, but it should be a good fight.

Hopefully these wins are the start of a WG comeback as we move more into the team games. GG can't afford 1v1 losses if they want to avoid relegation, as french and apex won't show mercy in the team games. French and Apex are still pretty quiet, expect a push from them to catch the top 3, French have more max points than lynx, so could definitely join the fight with some solid performance.

Here's a rough explanation, from the Div. D thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/159498-clan-league-8-division-d-official-thread?Offset=380

Forecast is based on winrates on a matchup-by-matchup (on a clan level) + format-by-format basis (using some conservative estimation if two clans haven't played each other on a specific format), while Elo Forecast goes by Elo on a format-by-format basis. The blind spot for Elo is mainly in situations where one clan matches up really well against another specific clan on a format but doesn't perform as well elsewhere.

Edited 7/20/2016 20:06:42

Hey. I'd like to resign from my unofficial updating/scorekeeping-y duties since I strongly disagree with how MotD reacts to things like the M'Hunters incident + the Tabby issue by blaming them on me and really don't want to continue to be part of a community event run by people like him. No hard feelings; just doing what aligns with my values- and I really don't want to create more drama here or really even talk further about this.

Thanks.

EDIT: Actually, with the PM's I'm getting from some of you... I really feel a bit unwelcome on this site b/c of y'all. I'm not thin-skinned or anything, but Internet mobs like that are scary. So sorry, but I'm gonna stop with any updates from my end immediately. :(

EDIT2: KKND has volunteered to replace me. The sheets at http://tinyurl.com/cl8a-fancy will still be active and hopefully you'll be able to still enjoy some of the data and visualizations in there. I'd like to express my sincerest gratitude to him for stepping in.

EDIT3: Since people seem to still be curious, this is why:

- I got tired of Tabby spamming the Div D thread instead of scorekeeping. MotD blacklisted me as a result.

- I criticized M'Hunters for their treatment of cheating. They personally attack me in response, with no response to the actual issue. MotD's response:

[12:41:34 AM] [REDACTED] - Deadman - Motd - WL: knyte is a real problem though
[12:41:41 AM] Great Expanse - WL: I was about to go talk to you MotD
[12:42:02 AM] [REDACTED] - Deadman - Motd - WL: he just has to have an opinion and rant at everyone :/
[12:42:27 AM] [REDACTED] - Deadman - Motd - WL: I already blacklisted both the threads, so I'm not reading it as such
[12:42:32 AM] [REDACTED] - Deadman - Motd - WL: until you mentioned it
[12:42:50 AM] Benjamin628: I don't think he started it
[12:43:02 AM] [REDACTED] - Deadman - Motd - WL: does not matter really

- M'Hunters are likely cheating. I documented it to send things to MotD (and later opened it to the public when I found out MotD doesn't wanna listen and sees all of this as me wanting to create drama or having a personal vendetta- like I want to be on the shitlist of every elitist on this site)- http://bit.ly/mh-cl8-cheating. No salt. Tried to get it to MotD for review. This is the response I get from someone helping me (who was *not* on MotD's shitlist until he criticized M'Hunters behavior while also criticizing me):

hope it gets to Clan League council because if I mail MotD he will be SUPER pissed and not even look at it, and he removed me from his skype contacts.

At this point, MotD's go-to response to anyone bothering to say anything critical about CL or a CL team seems to blame them, tell them to "stop making drama," and do nothing about the problem itself.

I believe MotD's attitude can be summed up as "I'm already doing a lot. Don't make me do it right."

I'm not interested in helping prop up a league that deals with issues by telling people to stop bringing them up. When MotD and others criticized template choices in IPL, I reacted immediately- because I wasn't the kind of asshat who thinks he's already doing everyone a favor and I'd rather actually make things better. So yeah, no offense to MotD, but this is just my reasoning here. Hope you understand this as more of an explanation of why I'm stepping down from my frankly inconsequential role; I don't think MotD is the kind of person who likes to listen or improve, at least not within this context. Ah well. Y'all have fun.


EDIT4: Apologies to MotD for copypasting without removing his real name. Thanks to Jz for telling me about it. Fixed. If you see a version of that chat excerpt with MotD's name in there, please PM me so I can go back and redact it. Thanks!

Edited 7/23/2016 05:44:07

Knyte I agree, deadman is a horrible person

your updates were bad anyway

pizza man stop being mean :D

Edited 7/21/2016 13:52:47

@Seph: I'd appreciate it if you could detail a bit further so KKND doesn't make the same mistakes I made. Thanks!

3rd time is the charm?

Edited 7/22/2016 00:34:52

@knyte: Deadman wants to go from his house to knyte's and back. He travels the first half at 30km/h (~18.6411mph), but when he reaches knyte's house he realizes that he was too slow. At what speed should he travel the second half of the journey if he wants his average speed to be 60km/h (~37.2823mph)?

I don't think this is the place for standardized test/basic algebra help; if you're legitimately in need of that (I don't judge), PM me and I'll actually try to help you even if I don't think you're acting in good faith. Might be silly of me to extend this to someone who seems to want to burn a few bridges, but it's a strong belief of mine that education should be free and accessible to all... so I try to play my part by helping people that might need it. Easily abused system, I know, but I think it's worth it to still try and do something. :)

If you just want a short answer: sadly, it's impossible for MotD to go back fast enough to average 60 km/h. He was too slow the first half of the journey (no way to increase your average speed by a factor of x if you've already covered 1/x of the total distance of the journey). He can, however, still try his hardest and minimize the shortfall. Sometimes even futile actions are worth doing because, even if you short fall of your aim, you still achieve something. It's almost like real life that way- most of us already understand that we'll likely fall short of our childhood dreams. But we still carry on in that same direction because it reflects our values and gets us closer to where we wanted to be even if we don't quite make it there.

But I digress- move to PM if you actually need help (and yes, I'm completely serious here). I don't wanna be held responsible for clutter on another CL thread :P. That means I'll ignore any continuation here since I know you're at least capable of using PMs to communicate.

Edited 7/22/2016 02:14:27