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The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 22:36:36


Major General Smedley Butler
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It improved living conditions in Somalia, but was stopped in 2006 by statist invasions. It worked in Medieval Iceland and the European Free States too. Several Native American tribes had anarchism too (not despotic tribalism or monarchical tribalism.)
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 22:37:27


adrian waco
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go to somalia and live with ur anarchist buddies

why are u arguing with us here

go live out ur fantasy
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 22:39:30


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It improved living conditions in Somalia, but was stopped in 2006 by statist invasions. It worked in Medieval Iceland and the European Free States too. Several Native American tribes had anarchism too (not despotic tribalism or monarchical tribalism.)

Thats the point. In small communities it sometimes works, but not in a world with 7 billion individuals.
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 22:52:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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There's no basis for this, no reason why it cannot work globally. Just saying it's too big doesn't make sense.
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 22:53:29


adrian waco
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there is a basis

its called dunbar number

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 22:59:11


Major General Smedley Butler
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But this doesn't apply here. I'm not asking everyone to know everyone.
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 23:02:14


adrian waco
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in order for people to cooperate with each other u need to be a tight nit group

u need to recognize that other ppl are humans and shit

your brain can only process about a 100 or so people. anything beyond that and organizations/groups are less efficient and even cease to fail

its why small startups are more effective then big corporations

ppl will cease to cooperate once dunbar's number has been crossed
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 23:21:03

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Look at Pol Pot, or Athens, killing smart folk because they were able to threaten the government.

Yes, let's take ideas on how to build a good government from Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and 1930's militarist Japan. You use confirmation bias by ignoring successful governments and make examples of some of the most evil people in history and put them forward as examples of what government does. How about when the U.S. sent aid to Haiti after he earthquake? Large scale humanitarian aid is not possible without government.

Also,the truck or whatever that hauled your phone to a local store would likely have been robbed or ambushed by people in a lawless land.
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 23:21:35


Major General Smedley Butler
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You don't need to have a good social bond with someone to cooperate, you cooperate everyday with folk you don't know. You ask them for directions, you exchange goods and currency with them, and provide services for them.
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 23:23:25


adrian waco
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if u dnt abide by dunbar's number then ull naturally form governments the very thing that u hate

we all cooperate to have a government

it wat we want

Edited 5/23/2016 23:23:43
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 23:28:27


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Dunbar is a place in Scotland =)
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/23/2016 23:43:45


Major General Smedley Butler
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Also,the truck or whatever that hauled your phone to a local store would likely have been robbed or ambushed by people in a lawless land.

In Somalia before 2006, most cattle traders, merchants and other road walkers reported that they didn't feel as if they needed to hire security or have any security whatsoever.

You use confirmation bias by ignoring successful governments and make examples of some of the most evil people in history and put them forward as examples of what government does

Alright, let's see what the strongest and most important countries of the 20th hundredyear have done with their power.

America: Entered WW1 because Germany wasn't having any of their shit when they were sending arms to Britain, started WW2 with it's start of tariff wars, and has held the world in a permanent state of potential nuclear war since 1945. Killed twenty to fifty million from 1945 to present.
Germany: Entered WW1 because it wouldn't shut Austria up, got Britain and France to enter the war, and is responsible for millions of deaths in that war. Started WW2 by invading Poland, and committed genocide. After WW2, it's actions are less independent and it was relegated to being a puppet of the US.
Britain: Entered WW1 instead of trying to mediate peace, colonized vast portions of the world while killing millions, started a manmade famine to punish Indians for not paying taxes that killed three million. Can't really be blamed as much for WW2, but it bombed civilian centers badly. After WW2, it helped the US do it's badness.
Russia: Entered WW1, when it could have stopped it, so it is responsible for millions killed. Went communist, and ended up killing millions, gave Germany economic support before Barbarossa that kept it from collapsing, and didn't prepare for Barbarossa (which was pretty obvious.) It and the US kept the world at the brink of nuclear war till now, where it still continues. Also killed millions in the Cold War.

Aren't these the countries most others look to emulate?
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/24/2016 00:09:45


adrian waco
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now GO TO SOMALIA

stop ARGUING with us

GO LIVE OUT UR DREAM
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/24/2016 00:17:42

Roland
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Anarchism is impossible. Eventually a totalitarian state is formed. After centuries of philosophy, capitalism results and poverty levels are at an all time low.Just look at the history of the world.
The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/24/2016 01:51:33


Major General Smedley Butler
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The burden of proof is on you, statists.: 5/24/2016 04:42:18


Comrade Mario
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go 2 SOMALIA

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