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how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:34:54

Welsh Knight
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Christ is my boss, I take it back, I just want one, she's Cambodian and red the bible 14 times.
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:35:35


DomCobb
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So if I own a business and in it I regularly reference God, set special days we can't do stuff because of the Christian Bible, etc. this is not a Christian business?
Maybe? If the business is hining people of all religions, than probably not. If it is hiring people of one religion and is trying to spread it in some way, then maybe yes.
Needs more clarification.
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:37:03


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// Begin Theological lesson about Marriage

Although people in the old testament had multiple wives, there's a pretty specific new testament passage about marriage in 1 corinthians 7:

1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.


Although not explicitly condemning polygamy, the implications are everywhere.

I'm sure there's other biblical passages condemning the practice, but the above one was the first that came to mind.

//End Theological Lesson on Marriage

So firstly, America was not founded on biblical values, but rather the idea of freedom. For a lot of the founding fathers who were actually deists, such as thomas jefferson, alexander hamilton, and thomas paine, this actually meant freedom from the "tyrannical" church of england...


Secondly, Polygamy is illegal in all 50 states, and the punishment for being married to more than one person ranges from Misdemeanor to Felony. See this map:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polygamy_laws_usa.png

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how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:44:56

Welsh Knight
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I agree with with paugers, he's an American now, YES!
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:46:25


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Actually, it was mostly intended to protect the rights of unabashed atheists in the US government like thomas jefferson . For example in england, it was required to swear allegiance to the church to hold public office. This was definitely something they planned for as it was, after all, the enlightenment.

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how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:48:26

Welsh Knight
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ok sry guys, I'm about to be held ransom by the muslims now!
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 19:50:43

Welsh Knight
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now they want to murder me and paugers, if we disappear u'll know what happens!
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:01:41

Welsh Knight
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for the muslims, I'm a student merely a student and I have much to learn. However Mohamad was some sort of holy man, but the muslim mistake is pussting him above my lord and savior Jesus F'in Christ! read a book,
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:03:38


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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Paug a business being closed on Sunday just means they are closed on Sunday. that's like saying a Library is a Christian library because they aren't open on Sunday.

But for examples like Chick-fil-a they are a Christian company because the Leaders of Chick-fil-a are Super Christian and make Christian policies. Not that they were closed on Sunday.
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:08:34


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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so then The President not having to worry about bills on Sunday is just a respect to the Sabbath ... and a day off.

also Imperator ... that passage you linked is like ... well SOO confusing i don't know how anyone would say that says anything.

Edited 4/12/2016 20:09:47
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:11:46


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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I argue this with people ALLLL the time. America did not intend religious freedom for every religion, it intended to allow freedom for all the CHRISTIAN sects which were battling in Europe at that time. America in this period would have gone into civil war if they refused to only allow one Christian sect because there were so many in the US. But there is no way the founding fathers could have predicted boat loads of Muslims coming to America.


while true they wouldn't of thought about Muslims ... They still said all churches which is more about freedom then it is Bible.

Yes, the President originally got Sunday off because the US and its citizens were a Christian nation and Sunday is reserved for church and your family.


Still doesn't mean America was based on the bible (as there isn't anywhere in there when they talk about how to run a country)

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how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:12:46


Major General Smedley Butler
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King Salman is against murder, does not make him Christian.

"as the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen (Muslims) and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan (Mohammedan or Muslim) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
- Barbary war treaty.
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:18:23

Welsh Knight
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ok paugers ima kill myself now like you said!
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:19:22


Major General Smedley Butler
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Mad that I quoted Jefferson?
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:20:22


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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no source. it's just that when i said all churches i just meant the Government didn't care which one they would go to. (which of course you couldn't go to Muslim one as they weren't there).
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:26:54


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also Imperator ... that passage you linked is like ... well SOO confusing i don't know how anyone would say that says anything.


What the passage says is that It's better to not get married and just never have sex, but if you have to have sex, it's better to get married than to "Commit immorality" ie. Having sex outside of marriage.

The reason I referenced that specific passage is that it makes reference to "his wife" and "her husband" as singular nouns, implying that it's not okay to have more than one.

Edited 4/12/2016 20:28:44
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 20:27:54

Welsh Knight
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to you flaming f'in American liberals: if you don't like the constitution then get the FUCKKK OUT!

IMA BE LIKE NOAH FROM NOAH'S ARK, BUT INSTEAD OF RESCUING ONE ANIMAL FROM every species, Ima marry one woman from every race.

HAHA JK

GET OUT!
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 23:02:27


Tsukiyama Shuu
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I mean you don't have to marry the hoes. All you gotta do is keep them on a leash

Edited 4/12/2016 23:02:43
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 23:29:26


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Well, if someone can provide a reason other than religion on why we should have polygamy, I'm all ears.

I think that an issue like that should be given to states to decide, not the federal government. And if they all say no, then that's what the states think, not the "big spooky totalitarian government".

There can be a lot of legal issues with polygamy like custody, inheritance, and so forth.

As long as you're not harming the spouses like you would if one had a single partner, I don't see an issue.

Besides, look at some of the polygamy in the Bible. Note that this is coming from the Torah itself, since I am a Jew (waits for the insults), and that the Hebrew translation is probably more accurate.

Abraham gets his wife and a concubine.
Jacob gets two wives and two concubines.
Moses is implied to have a second wife.
David marries/sleeps with tons of women.

And if we're drawing laws from the Bible, we might as well make incest legal. I don't even want to go through all the incest, since it makes Game of Thrones look genetically OK.
how many wives are legal in US: 4/12/2016 23:36:49


Melisandre (the Red Woman)
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Most of the Incest is from the whole Adam/Eve are the only people in the world thing.
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