Reading this forum is never boring :D

Keep it rollin guys :P

@Salty

Just get a third party to create a PM between you two if you are that desperate.

MoD just let him kiss your ring and get it over with.

I want him to post here, as I'm sick of people licking his rim; he can speak for himself.

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Jeff, I`m starting to think you paid them to get rid of MoD! You want all the power for yourself, don`t you :O Don`t trust JEFF guys, he`s trying to seize power of the MASTERSclan!!

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It's a power struggle disguised as a class war.

let's just all go back to hating jefferspin and belgians, I liked it better that way :(

I didn't see it as laughing and mocking, but an attempt to show us some assholes who deserve to be reported or something.

I wonder where does this fits...

Wait wait wait, you guys call MoD, who is one of the best players around right now, elitist. YET the first line I see in this thread comes from Ox and says:
"These elitist pricks need to be shown that we are the true kings of WarLight"

A reminder that all of this started because a joke was taken overly seriously.

Have you ever even approached any of these guys for tips on how to improve?

Good to know you're determined, but I present you *casual play*, it's that wonderful feature that allows you to play the game without aiming for anything other than dopamine bursts and *diplomacy mode*, our version of if that some people who didn't like the idea like complaining about.

Try getting to know the top players because with all this unjustifiable hate

I did, back in 2015 there was one specific tournament he might not quite remind, but he was rude in tournament chat but we still proceeded to play nicely, fair and with nothing other than a few nice words and a GG at the very end.

But then again, I come to the forums to see a feature removed, make a small comment to joke at and "go find something better to do with your life" (which, by the way, you just said, putting you in the list of people who should be doing something better than judging other people's life).

I can't speak for Ox, but it's not hate. It's probably one of Ox's little spurts of disgust (which I myself had too). Thing is, Ox went a little too far on the insulting MoD bandwagon. Does he hate him? I don't know, but who cares? People can't be loved or liked by everyone. He just attracted exceptional attention because Bane managed to run away from the special needs classroom to post this.

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What really annoyed me to hell and made me write that big ass rant Bane (un)conveniently shared with the public was Fizzer's attittude being the same "Lazy game developer" that every game gets on it's final years and instead of players trying to revert this, they were actually defending him for taking that stance. Frankly, at this point, it's not about getting Google back, google ads can only hold this game alive for 2 years, give or take. Probably a lack of experiencing the game to the very end, but still not a smart move.

inb4 "it's harder than it seems", no it's not. WarLight is a simple game, implementing things is NOT particularly hard or takes long. The bug fixes warlight makes are all announced, and they aren't much. And the community is anything but rotten, it had turned Risk into one of the most versatile games out there through community ideas, not to mention it expanded from the original 5~15 boring maps to thousands of fun new ones.

In other words, do I hade MoD? No, just a small bit disappointed that he was rude (again) to say something that was completely unnecessary, in defense of someone who deserves a lot of criticism. ASAP.
Do I hate Fizzer? No, but I am pretty sure I will in 2 years (most of you will), should his updates work like this one did.

TL;DR? Basically, pointless drama. Most people that in the past few events blacklisted me and/or will blacklist me after this probably never played/will never play with me anyway, so does it matter?

I hope you never face Boston, I can't imagine what the thread would be like then.

"And about MoD, he can be a jerk sometimes, just blacklisting people because they disagree with him, or pointlessly raging about a suggestion (which was to move his thread in the right place)."

Not "his" thread. And you were the one being a dick insisting the thread didn't belong while several others disagreed with you.

"Glorious Koala, dude, you don't get the point about blacklisting people. You can have 400 people blacklisted as long as it is justified, but some people randomly blacklist people just because they cannot stand with people disagreeing with them"

You're an idiot. You're displaying the very behavior you're claiming is wrong.

Someone blacklisting you does you no harm. They're not exiling you from the community, they're merely stating that they'd rather not play with you. There's no wrong reason to blacklist someone. By expecting "justification" you're the one getting upset because people don't agree with you. You blacklist who you want, MoD blacklists who he wants, you don't need to agree on the reasons to blacklist someone.


"this made my day. Again confirming my point (unless it is again a kind of "awkward" joke?)."

No. It doesn't confirm your point. The only thing this statement confirms is that you're a misguided fool. You are saying someone else's opinion/statement confirms your views on someone else. Something MoD says can confirm your point of view regarding what kind of person MoD is, something someone else says about him cannot do so.

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Gotta agree with Good Kid here. You can blacklist whoever you want. Who cares, anyway? You can blacklist people just because you can, there's nothing preventing you from doing so.

That wasn't exactly the point of this thread... but since when does it actually have one? ^

Ok I'm going to try and make an honest, non-trollish approach to this now, replying to concerns.

I was actually just talking to him on skype about this very issue and he genuinally seems upset that he is being viewed this way. He actually just wants to find a way to help you guys to understand things more but doesn't want to post here to fuel this argument. Does that sound like someone with an arrogant or elitist attitude?!?

No, it doesn't. But I've had no interaction with this MoD. The MoD that I've seen, is the MoD that, when I made a jokey application to Masters he said "go back to your role playing friends kiddo", and the MoD that calls people who like SR noobs, and the MoD that says to diplo players "Boston actually plays" and the MoD that said to Zeph "zephyrum why don't you Play a Blockade style game". This is the MoD that I mocked and insulted, not the MoD I hear about.

Wait wait wait, you guys call MoD, who is one of the best players around right now, elitist. YET the first line I see in this thread comes from Ox and says:
"These elitist pricks need to be shown that we are the true kings of WarLight"

How in the hell is this not elitist. You guys see yourself as the kings of WL? Yeez, get of your high horse, you mean nothing. MoD might have been rude, but at least he doesn`t see himself as a higher class.

Alright, this part wasn't serious at all, although it does look serious in the fact that Bane just put it right at the top. I was just comparing the "Attack" threads to a New Warlight Order, nothing serious lads :P

Have you ever even approached any of these guys for tips on how to improve?

Yeah, I have actually. Just because I'm not as good as them and I don't like their condescending attitude sometimes doesn't mean I don't try to improve.

I can't speak for Ox, but it's not hate. It's probably one of Ox's little spurts of disgust (which I myself had too).

If MoD truly doesn't want to be viewed this way, then I can sympathise with him. If who he actually is, is not the person that I've seen him as, then I don't hate him. Looking over it, I didn't say the nicest things, but the things I said did have a message behind them of what I did mean.

Styxie, you may be right. I might be seeing MoD differently to how you see him, because I've not interacted with him as much. But almost every single time I've interacted with him, or seen what he's written, he's either calling people noobs, telling people he doesn't like to "go back to your diplos" or generally condescending elitist attitude, then that is the only thing I can judge him on. And when that is the only things I can judge him on, then that leads me to dislike him. And when I dislike something... Here's a few old screenshots of long-long ago.

1) My first comment of hate: https://gyazo.com/0c6883bdbb5c1e0f3471cd46f1a61e2b

2) My first rant of hate: https://gyazo.com/a52fd1e4acd4e99c56c653c1c547b281 (note: right after I was taken prisoner by Kim-Jong Un, after being offered the position of vice-president of North Korea. I hated NK at that time, as MightySpeck had stolen the position I was promised)

3) First response to my rant of hate: https://gyazo.com/c9f354c0dd83fa77df7436cc52e8035f

In conclusion: I get fired up. My only perception of MoD is bad. Bad perception + my fired-upy-ness = rude shit that I probably don't mean.

"What really annoyed me to hell and made me write that big ass rant Bane (un)conveniently shared with the public was Fizzer's attittude being the same "Lazy game developer" that every game gets on it's final years and instead of players trying to revert this, they were actually defending him for taking that stance."

If you see game developers as "lazy game developers" for not catering to your whims you're an overly self-entitled selfish asshole. It's as simple as that - you don't get to dictate how Fizzer spends his time. You're also severely underestimating how much time he and other game developers spend working on their games. Dedicating all your time to something and having people repeatedly trash you for being "slow" and "lazy" while you do it is incredibly demoralizing.

If game development is so easy in your eyes please go create a successful game and show us all how it's done. But of course you won't do that - that'd require effort, you're much happier to sit back and comlain about how inadequate everyone else is.

Alright, this part wasn't serious at all, although it does look serious in the fact that Bane just put it right at the top. I was just comparing the "Attack" threads to a New Warlight Order, nothing serious lads :P

Then its cool :)

Where is this fan club of MoD?

Not "his" thread. And you were the one being a dick insisting the thread didn't belong while several others disagreed with you.

This was PS's thread true. I was the one insisting because I even showed you 2 similar threads and both of them were in the OT forum and then some of you started raging saying the 2 other threads were different because they weren't about real players whereas these 3 threads were about the same very topic (a player and his ban), and insulting some people like Sirsalty and blacklisting him for no reason (very childish attitude). I will tell you one more time: Easy to say "several" when most of you were people of his clan, or a group of players very close, again no objectivity.

You're an idiot.

Juq (a good forumer tbh even if we often disagreed on many things together) would tell you you just committed a very big logical fallacy. Insulting someone is just pathetic. Stop raging and calm down first, then we could discuss normally.

Someone blacklisting you does you no harm. They're not exiling you from the community, they're merely stating that they'd rather not play with you. There's no wrong reason to blacklist someone. By expecting "justification" you're the one getting upset because people don't agree with you. You blacklist who you want, MoD blacklists who he wants, you don't need to agree on the reasons to blacklist someone.

I already said in the Boston thread I did not care at all if they blacklisted me, nonetheless they blacklisted also SirSalty and certainly other people for no other reason than him being a "not real" player, or raging after him just because he reasonably were offended after what MoD said.

No. It doesn't confirm your point. The only thing this statement confirms is that you're a misguided fool. You are saying someone else's opinion/statement confirms your views on someone else. Something MoD says can confirm your point of view regarding what kind of person MoD is, something someone else says about him cannot do so.

"misguided fool" logical fallacy number 2!

You are clearly understanding nothing of what happened earlier, and why I said this. It confirmed my points about some people (not only MoD, if you just looked at the other thread called "Mercer 1st place realtime ladder") making awkward jokes or stupid judgements upon an entire community, this is exactly what RiverStyxie did here.

Sending a post to the OT forum is like sending it to the dungeons to be tortured. It gets lost in the massive amount of hate and porn threads. Maybe that's why people didn't want it to be moved koala. I think you rubbed people the wrong way because it was a fun post that turned into an argument. People love Boston, but not because he's a strategic player. People love him because he's an asshole and really does not care. He's not just trolling to troll, he always seems to be crawling inside a bottle while he berates you. WE LOVE IT! When you try to move him to OT forum, that pisses some of us off. Me particularly. I get you didn't mean to cause an uproar and it's in the past. You didn't know, but I'm here to explain it to you. Also, MoD is a good guy. He calls everyone noobs so try to have thicker skin huh?

You're too fat Jeff

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