'Backwards'? Have you heard of No Child Left Behind? Do you agree that it is largely backwards in terms of educational philosophy (testing over teaching)?1) I did not and do not support NCLB. 2) There is nothing wrong with high amounts of testing (its the model of success for far east asian countries) 3) My main problem with US education is the amount of teaching that goes on for the amount per capita spent on each student.
'Religiously tainted'? You've heard of the Creationism and Intelligent Design movements, right? Do you agree that they have tainted education in the US with religious dogma? (They have largely been defeated in recent years, but only after a long and drawn out battle. And there are still regular occurrences of teachers and school boards dabbling in it.)Oh please this hasn't been a problem for decades and you're posthumously trying to drudge it up to cover the back of liberal-progressive failures in the educational system. Slate created a map of all the schools teaching creationism:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/a-map-showing-which-u-s-public-schools-teach-creationi-1515717148. They're mostly concentrated in Indiana, Tennessee, Louisianan, Florida, Texas, and Georgia. Just stating "religious tainted" with no evidence whatsoever is fallacious and deceitful at best. Even the occurrence of "religion based philosophies" being taught within public schools fails to account for the massive failures in northeastern liberal-elite schools.
'Racially and economically segregated'? Do you really find this a controversial claim? You've heard of the term 'inner city schools', right? Why do poor asian americans (let's say in New York City's poorest areas) out preform whites, jews, blacks, and hispanics in the same economic bracket on test scores. Its due to differences in culture and work ethic. The problem with the liberal philosophy of education is that they want to throw more money at the problem. Liberal are not calling for new educational standards (they've proposed nothing so far at least). They're tonic to the test scores problem is to throw more money at it. You can't argue the facts. DC Schools spent $29,349 per pupil and 83% of students are not proficient in reading. Liberals are trying to attack meritocracy at every level, which degrades the high standards of education that makes American education get better. "In 1971, Stuyvesant High School was mostly white, 10 percent black, 4 percent Puerto Rican or “other Spanish surnamed,” and 6 percent Asian. This year at Stuyvesant, 72 percent are Asian and less than 4 percent are black or Hispanic." You know how they determine admission into Stuyvesant High School...a single test. Do you know which group has the highest poverty rate of any racial group in NY...Asians. An economically disadvantaged group is succeeding right in the heart of an "inner city". So what do liberals have a problem with? Ohhhhhh I forgot...the "right types of races" aren't succeeding (namely Africans and Hispanics). Now Bill de Blasio and the liberal teacher unions that support him are arguing that the test is racially biased (YES A TEST IS RACIALLY BIASED!!). So apparently it favors poor Asians but not poor Africans??? Some have even proposed quotas for blacks and hispanics. This is the liberal answer to poor education: throw more money at it, water down the difficulty of tests, and allow people to make excuses and play the victim card.
'Conservative politics'? Do you really think Bush is not conservative? And he's just one example, though he was a primary champion of NCLB, so he's a biggy.Don't associate me with the "conservatism" of Bush. Controls on education belong to the state and local governments not the big bureaucrats up on the Hill. Educational standards that NCLB and Common Core (liberals + establishment republicans) are ridiculous (I never argued with you on that), but to say that these are conservative educational policies is again deceitful.
Enjoy your New Year's. You can post at 2:00 AM on WL forums about educational standards if that's what you want to do with your life. If not, then I suggest going out and doing something about the problem we both are clearly passionate about. I wonder how active you people are in your local and state governments????
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