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Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/12/2015 11:13:43


Lucarr10
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#AnimalsNeedAReasonToDie
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/12/2015 18:06:15


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Lets eat some humans instead.
I will start with you, if that is okay...
But to make it more cruel I will jail you in a cage for 6 months.

I am a proud vegetarian.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/12/2015 19:01:59


Lucarr10
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meanwhile, your image is a cat, mine is a wolf


how do you fancy your odds now?
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 18:59:05


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Is that your only arugment about stopping eating meat? God, I will give you also some good reasons to stop eating vegetables:


1, Calorie Deficiency

Most moderately active men burn between 2,400 and 2,800 calories per day, while most women burn 1,800 to 2,200 calories. It's extremely difficult to meet these numbers with vegetables alone. For example, 1 cup of raw, chopped carrots contains just 52 calories, while the same amount of boiled broccoli contains 55 calories. You'd need to eat 38 cups of carrots or 36 cups of broccoli just to consume 2,000 calories. With too few calories, you'll likely feel lethargic and have a harder time focusing and performing vigorous activities.

2, Macronutrient Deficiency

Although vegetables are good sources of fiber and carbohydrates, they lack significant amounts of the macronutrients, fat and protein. Fat is necessary for healthy mental function, energy and nutrient metabolism, while you need protein for strong muscles and an effective immune system. The "2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans" recommends getting 20 to 35 percent of your daily calories from fat and 10 to 35 percent from protein. Beans, peas and tofu are good protein sources, while nuts, avocado and olive oil are healthy sources of fat.

3, Vitamin and Mineral Deficiency

With a vegetable-only diet, you'll miss out on the broad range of vitamins and minerals present in a balanced meal plan. In particular, you may grow deficient in vitamin B-12 and vitamin D. You also run the risk of an iron deficiency. Even though some vegetables, such as dark, leafy greens, are rich in iron, they also contain chemicals called phytates that block absorption of the mineral. A diet deficient in vitamin B-12 or iron can cause anemia, a condition in which your blood doesn't supply your body with enough oxygen.
Disordered Eating

Severely restricting food can be a sign of an eating disorder, particularly if you are trying to lose weight. Healthy weight loss does not involve drastic calorie reduction -- and putting your physical image over your well-being could be a sign of deeper issues. Only a qualified health professional can diagnose such a condition. However, if you feel overwhelmed by your weight or your diet, speak with a counselor or other expert to help ensure optimal physical and mental health.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 19:02:39


Angry Koala
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This whole debate is meaningless, Men are naturally omnivores not herbivores nor vegetarians.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 19:04:45


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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1. Calorie Deficiency - It's extremely difficult to meet these numbers with vegetables alone.

LMAO. Who said you should just eat vegetables? That's a horrible dietary choice. All I was suggesting is people cut meat out of their diet for personal and global ecological reasons. Vegetarians still eat dairy, carbohydrate grains, legumes, and fruits - this is how vegetarians make up the calorie deficiency.

2. Macronutrient Deficiency - they lack significant amounts of the macronutrients, fat and protein

Again its called legumes, grains, and dietary supplements. If you remember there's nation with about 50% vegetarians (hint it begins with I and ends with NDIA). You won't die if you go vegetarian.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 19:10:50


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Jai humans are omnivores, did you get it?

Really I know people who are vegetarians, and I respect them, and I really despise people like you telling others what they have to do (this is what exactly I did whith my post about why being vegetarian is also dangerous, you see this is boring, and if we keep with people like you everything we do is dangerous, come on..)

So if we eat meat well then what? why are you caring that much? it is about our health not yours. And most of the people eating meat are doin well really.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 19:26:04


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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I don't eat vegetables and I'm not dead yet.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 19:45:46


Lucarr10
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vitamin deficiency is on its way
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 20:05:58


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Really I know people who are vegetarians, and I respect them, and I really despise people like you telling others what they have to do

So now people aren't allowed to have opinions. People can eat meat. Obviously I can't change that. But I can suggest changes can't I? And just the biological argument (humans were evolved to be omnivores) is a superficial argument that ignores moral and ecological reasoning against eating meat. I'm only trying to promote the idea of vegetarianism in a moral and global conservation sense. If people choose not to practice vegetarianism that is perfectly fine. I'm not being extremist about it am I? I'm not threatening people or saying they will die if they eat meat am I?

And its not just about people's health. Livestock production for meat produces about 18% of co2 emissions - its contributing to climate change more than other sources. Its a huge problem for our generation and I'm just trying to suggest people move in a different direction. Forgive me if I've offended you so much.

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/News/2006/1000448/index.html

Again escalation by liberals...they do it amazingly.

Edited 12/14/2015 20:08:21
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 20:16:34


Angry Koala
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You are allowed to have an opinion not to tell people what they have to do, this is highly arrogant and hypocrite Jai.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 20:20:27


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and about co2 emissions, I guess you were talking about methane emission instead, which is 4 times more polluting than co2, methane comes from animals defecation (mainly cows), and I agree this is a real danger, but again this can be solved, I am personally not for any abuses, that means only eating meat or only eating vegetables, I think the best thing is to have a decent and well balanced alimentation mixing both of them.

A question, do you consider eating insects (future food, quite popular in Asia, I personally tried it and enjoyed it) as eating meat?

Edited 12/14/2015 20:22:33
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 20:31:05


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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"According to a new report published by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent – 18 percent – than transport. It is also a major source of land and water degradation. " - This is from the FAO of the UN

18% CO2 emission equivalent. The real hypocrites are the Paris Climate Summit negotiators who are forcing countries to cut emissions without taking a stand against global consumption of meat which is equally ruinous.

While my definition of what constitutes meat comes from a religious stance, so yes I personally consider eating insects a form of meat. That being said its probably better for the environment than large scale meat production and consumption.

not to tell people what they have to do

I'm not trying to tell people what they HAVE to do. I'm telling them what they SHOULD do. Big difference. Not trying to be arrogant. And I don't see how I'm being hypocritical.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 20:36:55


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Angry thats one of the stupiest posts I have ever read... My entire family is vegetarian and we have no problems getting vitamins, calories or minerals. You argument is invalid.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 21:28:19


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Cata that's a logical fallacy as that is only one case out of thousands or even millions.
Stop eating meat? - New Superbug E. Coli Strain: 12/14/2015 21:29:30


Angry Koala
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How do you know you have the right vitamins, calories or minerals, did you consult any dieteticians?
I did not invented what I wrote, this is from some serious studies.
But again if you paid a little attention my post was to answer Jai's comments about stopping eating meat, where he obviously tries to dictate to everybody here what they have to do (religion, food or drugs), just let them live like they want.
I also said I personally know some vegetarian people and I respect them, I wont say "Oh listen, did you know only eating vegetables is not the best thing to do?". This is what I tried to point out here: telling people what is good or wrong can be offensive and also pointless.
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