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Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 01:37:48

Fizzer 
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If WarLight were to add a way for clans to declare war on each other, how would you like this to work? Who would choose the game settings? How would a winner be declared? What could you win?

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Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 02:19:11


Genghis 
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The current system of rounds seems to be fun. Though it would be kind of cool to see a system similar to an MMORPG, barely crossing the border of it matter of factually, you could control territories on a wide-spread map and fight battles for new ones, that's just my idea though.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 02:27:43

Seahawks 
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it should either be negotiated by clan leaders or voted on by all members of the clans in the match, it could be the system the nation cup uses or the system that warlighters vs 101st is using

Edited 9/23/2013 03:41:41
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:02:58

Hennns
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well a clan system is already here^^
http://blog.warlight.net/index.php/2013/09/website-update-2-2-clans/

It makes sense to me that the clan leader (and managers) from both clans agree on the settings, they an ofc talk to their clan members, so everyone would be included. I`m Imagining some sort where clan A challenges clan B, then clan B can either accept, decline or send back a challenge with different settings. (maybe using the mail system or smt similar would be good for this?).
A clan war IMO should be more than 1 game, I`m thinking it will be awesome if it could be made as a tournament where you don\t have to fight your clanmartes (obviously).

Maybe making a clan ladder, so the clan fights for points, will be a good reward system?
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:03:48


NecessaryEagle 
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I would like to see something like "Pro League Format" that the SPL in Starcraft uses. Here's a basic idea of what the format is:

there are a set amount of maps, that are in the "pool"

Each team gets to veto a certain number of them, and the rest are used

each "captain" chooses which 6 members to use for maps 1-6

It's best of 7, so first to win 4

If the 7th is needed, the captains choose another player, which can be from the first 6, to play in that game.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:04:45


ʢ Dimachaerus‏ ʡ 
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What if Clan's joined a CLAN LADDER, and then it could be a similar format to the current ladders, except allowing for 3v3 and larger groups. Then the clans could be ranked easily by adding up the average rank of their team or the top 5-10 of their team. Or by win percentage????

Not sure how you'd work the duels clan vs clan b/c I'm not sure what the spoils would be. But that is a really fun idea.

I like your thought Nebuchadnezar_II but not sure how applicable it would be or how it would work.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:08:18


Genghis 
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Well we could do something like that right now. If multiple clans chose representatives in a Multi-Day game and were via custom scenario distributed equal lands in strategic matter, then they could begin declaring small battles with each other for each individual territory. Basically, instead of just attacking territories, there's a whole new game devoted to each territorial war. One clan could have maybe a maximum of 1 - 3 offensive battles going on at a time. See what I'm getting at?


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How it would work with newcomer clans?
Perhaps start making new " primary " games for every 6 clans that decide to join it. Or maybe fizzer could make a sort of barbarian system or a custom set-up that adds new territories for each newcomer on the already-there map. There's lots of possibilities. If you've ever played Evony or Grepolis, you might know what I'm saying a little better. If further explanation is needed, I could try getting one of my buddies to help with a clear example.

Edited 9/23/2013 03:12:16
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:19:03


NecessaryEagle 
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1st clan :D
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:23:08


<SNinja>gg
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what could happen is every clan has a spot on a "clan control map" and the leader of a clan can declare war on a clan if they do you have a week or something to fight that clan in games that are ONLY those two clans fight in and you score points for taking territory eliminating enemy's etc. at the end of the week or what ever who ever gets the most points takes a territory on the "clan control map" which ever clan takes the whole "clan control map" gets a clan notoriety which is basically bragging rights to clarify the clan map is showing how "good" the clan is doing and resets the clan map. the clan map is a separate tab to sow the progress this is just my 2 cents
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:25:11


Genghis 
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Perhaps controlling certain regions of our " clan control map " would offer miniscule but noticable bonuses to offensive/defensive games ?
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:28:17


<SNinja>gg
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also fizzer what if existing clans (that have proof they are legit) can bypass the $15 or they can gain the $15 back after awhile if they are legitament or something like that
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:28:57


<SNinja>gg
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i like that Nebuchadnezzar
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 03:43:36


<SNinja>gg
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also it gives a incentive to join a clan and socialize and... be kinder too
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:00:39


myhandisonfire 
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Shouldnt the first questions be:

What will be considered a clan?
What will be the requirements for creating a clan?
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:03:18


<SNinja>gg
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go to the link that henns givs it explains some of it there
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:05:43


Ska2D2 
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Ninja it would have been quicker for you to type $15.

@myhand if you can pay 15 bucks you can make a clan.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:05:49


myhandisonfire 
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If it costs something to create a clan, there should be free clan creation right tournaments.
Similiar to membership tournaments.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:10:09


<SNinja>gg
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agreed
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:35:34

Seahawks 
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yeah, just invite a representitive to the best clans, or maybe the winner of clan league (apex or wm) gets it for free
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:36:53


myhandisonfire 
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No, I meant totally new clans to be able to be created.
For instance Gui might want to start a new clan under an alt.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:37:42


<SNinja>gg
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no because the $15 price is to stop people from making clans for no reseon so i think that if there is a clan tournament it should be free to clan leaders/manegers
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 04:39:17

Jehovah 
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If it was for free, some troll (possibly me) would have made a lot of accounts, and made a lots of clans, and used current clan names to troll.

The $15 means that people who are really serious about making a clan can do so.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 05:42:19


Causation
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I think it would be fun to see an ongoing 'king of the mountain' set up between clans.

Players for either team would queue and the players at the top of the list would play a set template (later perhaps a choice of several) to determine the king of the mountain. The next player on the losing team would then step up to challenge.

Similar to the ladder, players could join or leave at any time. Stats and records could be linked to the clan pages, allowing outsiders to come and view them when they check out the clans.

This system could also be used for clan battles, if both clans were to choose X number of players and the winning clan would be declared when every member of one clan has been defeated.

Edited 9/23/2013 05:45:26
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 11:19:04


Ineffable 
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Thanks Fizzer for making clans official
as to clan wars I think a clan ladder could work
a 1v1 would be fun and I would do it similar to the 1v1 ladder
but each clan will be represented by several clan members and the clan ratings would be the combined rating of all participating clan members
a strategic ME template of course would be nice but a rotating template would be awesome
obviously you should program it so no same clan members would be paired against each other
and maybe make it so that each clan needs minimum clan members to participate in it
but anyway any kind of clan war would be great

Edited 9/23/2013 11:19:38
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 11:31:12


[GeZyS] sajdon (RETIRED FROM WL, THNX!) 
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The simples way is the best. Why not add a setting to a new game "Clans only game", where you can add people to teams only within the same clan.

These games would be shown on clan page as played by clan vs clan.

There sould be new type of open games "Clan games" which only clan members would see. There should be some improvement in inviting players or clans to the game.


1) You make a clan game and CHOOSE an opposite clan or clans (put it like an open seat) - it is shown on clan's page as open game to join for any clan memeber.
2) if you do not declare what clan u play against, any clan member can join opposite team and then it is reserved only for that clan
3) there should be some limits - if game is 3v3 a member or 2 players clan can not join it and if a game is 3v3 and you got 3 memebers, 2 joined the game and 1 left clan - those 2 players should be removed from the game, and if it was vs invited clan - the invitation should be cleaned.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 11:40:43


sasha grey
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we need flags first
the most important feature for Warlight now
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 12:12:38

Qi 
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Real-time 1v1 ladder
Multiple multi-day ladders
Challenge-based ladder (with option to decline)
Seasons with divisions (like how most team sports work)
^^ All with individual and clan ranks

Clan Wars:

Each Clan War season the clan leaders can create one tournament and each clan has one or two teams participate.

Though, if this clan/league system is to work properly, the tournaments probably need to be overhauled. Logical and fair tie-breakers, seeding, records and ranks WHILE the tournament is in progress, new tournament options in addition to RR and single/double-elimination (seasonal ladder format would work), etc.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 12:33:41


{rp} General Mac 
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In all honesty what in I would like to see in general is a lot of different ladders with different maps and settings

At the moment mere mortals like myself stand no chance of getting close to the top of the ladder as 1v1 just isn’t my strong point so I get bored of it very quick. I think it would be nice to see the following ladders

1v1s rotating maps
2v2 rotating maps
3v3s
5v5s
4FFA
Large FFAs
some sort of multi attack ladder

We need ladders that showcase people that have different skills other than just 1v1 or 2v2 on medium earth

If we had these then there would be no reason we couldn’t have the same for clan but maybe even with rotating maps and players so that each game randomly picks players from your pool. On your clan page you register which players are happy to enter which ladders

So for example on the 3v3 ladder your clan sets it to 2 games at a time and when one game finishes the system plucks out 3 random players from the clan who have registered for 3v3 to play against another clan

This way even if you play the same clan regularly at least you shouldn’t always be playing the same players

this is all just thinking out loud....i know the programming behind this wouldn't be easy
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 12:53:34

Qi 
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I like mac's ideas a lot.
Clan Wars brainstorm: 9/23/2013 13:37:45


Ska2D2 
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Just a request from those of us not in clans. Whatever you do do, try not to make it so you don't have to be in a clan to get functionality out of the game.

I know you see this as the best way of attracting new players and everything. But there are also a lot of people who like warlight for what it is. And joined warlight for what it is. And told their friends about warlight because of what it is. And paid money to support warlight for what it is.

I'd like you to remember them as well Fizzer when you're making your clan changes.

Edited 9/23/2013 14:06:36
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