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Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 03:48:04


berdan131
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What the mob says?


http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/paris-shooting-10-ways-it-looks-like-a-hallmark-false-flag-op.html





Some comments:

The Paris attack was a hoax, not a false flag.

1. 'Nohemi Gonzalez' an 'American student' supposedly killed in the attack turns out not to exist. This is the same MO used at the recent hoax shooting in Roseburg, Oregon- made up victims who never existed.

2. Seven suicide bombers- who killed no one? If you wanted to kill someone, a steak knife would suffice.

3. The 'American' band at the theater where the 'massacre' took place are actually Zionists.

4. All the venues where violence allegedly took place are Zionist owned or controlled. Charlie Hebdo showed the same pattern- every place from the magazine office to the printing plant where the kouachi brothers were allegedly killed- all owned by the same folks.

5. No video. Yes, there are a few of the usual low res, shaky-cam videos- but Paris has 5 million video cameras.

6. No perpetrators- as usual, as always.

FAKE FAKE FAKE
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 04:16:48


Жұқтыру
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I doubt it is a false flag, but it might be. Just there's not much grounds or deed being done with it. The points here vary in ridiculity and relevance, my favourite one:

Paris Shooting False Flag Sign #9: Numerology

As noted in the earlier article Paris Attack November 2015: Question Everything, the numerology of the event is strange. Perhaps it is just a coincidence, but the date of 11/13/15 – as it is written in American English – is numerologically significant, as is the fact the Paris shooting took place on Friday 13th (with the number 13 being a very significant number for the Illuminati, Freemasons and other secret society initiates). According to Vigilant Citizen, it was possibly foreshadowed on the cover of the Economist earlier this year.


They're practically fortune telling, and there's no grounds why they should leave such an important clue behind.

Paris Shooting False Flag Sign #10: A Long List of Beneficiaries

There is a long list of beneficiaries who stand to gain something from this horrendous Paris attack, such as the French Government, G20, Islamophobes, Zionist Israel and the New World Order manipulators. In addition to these, there are international and geopolitical ramifications to this. French militarists and NATO who have been wanting to attack Syria will now have the perfect excuse to increase their military presence there, on the heels of sending their only aircraft carrier (the Charles de Gaulle) to Syria – which is leaving Toulon on November 18 for the Persian Gulf.


What does more French (mis)deed in Syria do? They're not going to beat out the Americans, Russians, or most importantly, the natives, so what's the point? And furthermore, France was already in Syria. It's not really going to be big news if they gradually (to the public, so in weeks) grow their being there. But watch out for the zionists, though.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 05:17:20


Eklipse
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Considering how much France wanted to stay out of the Middle East during the Iraq War I highly doubt their government would kill its own citizens as an excuse to jump deeper into the fireworks.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 06:00:23


berdan131
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Eklipse,

This is not the point, the goal is to make an excuse for invigilation and "greater security" in cost of "less freedom".

The point is to control society more and to win election by injecting fear and so that people want one stable president

I don't know everything but only this makes sense
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 06:20:24


Жұқтыру
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The point is to control society more and to win election by injecting fear and so that people want one stable president


Assuming there even is a democracy (that is not rigged), just spend less money on military, and maybe develop the country more. That'll be popular; in France, I don't think most folk like all this military spending, even now.

I don't think it being a false flag is something that can be easily ruled out, but it just does not seem motivated enough now.

And you're the one who parades the September 11 attacks as false flag, as undeniable truth.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 07:00:15


berdan131
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From society's point of view it is not motivated.

But governments long gone, could not care less about the society's interest. The governments in most countries in europe don't work in interest of its people. There's no need for motivation, in fact many government actions are done against people's will. If you want to read about reason for this, search in whose interest is the decline of western countries.

And here, we're not talking about 9/11, however I must admit it is also a potential false flag attack and I believe it is indeed.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 07:11:39


Жұқтыру
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From society's point of view it is not motivated.


I was talking about motivation for whoever gained from this.

But governments long gone, could not care less about the society's interest. The governments in most countries in europe don't work in interest of its people. There's no need for motivation, in fact many government actions are done against people's will. If you want to read about reason for this, search in whose interest is the decline of western countries.


You are right, but governments don't do something that literally helps noone. Contrast: hitting yourself on the head against getting injury insurance hitting yourself on the head.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 11:21:35


Angry Panda
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Are people here denying the existence of the terrorist attacks, or denying that terrorists were faking their actions?

Seriously guys, shame on you (Cacao + Berdan), and respect the dead instead of posting some hazy/smoky theories again about conspiracies.
I personally heard of people, for ex my girfriend's English teacher that lost a good friend during the attacks, he had to stop his class this monday (for these obvious reasons) and went almost crying, do you consider this as FAKE?!

Seriously stop this now.

Edited 11/20/2015 11:25:47
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 13:26:14


Judeburger 
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It makes no sense to "fake" something that can so easily be perpetrated by a few trusted operatives. If you believe there are elements in world government who would commit such an atrocity then they surely don't care about human life, so why not use real gunmen and kill real victims? Such a hoax would be far more difficult and risky to pull off than a real shooting. This is the same gripe I have with 9/11 conspiracies: why go to all the trouble and risk of demolishing a building with nano-thermite or whatever when it would be much less risky to the supposed shadow government to simply fly real planes into buildings, possibly even using real terrorists?

I'm not denying there may be shadow government elements who would benefit from these actions, only asserting that if they are, they would have to be morons to open themselves to the risk of being found out by committing some kind of hoax attack. The most believable lies are as true as possible.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 17:50:31


berdan131
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There is no risk of being found. All you need to do is not stop some people and allow this to happen.

And Жұқтыру, you clerly need to see a bigger picture. However it is hard to understand without some "conspiracy theories". Yes, it seems pointless but if those in power who want to have total control over society, they need these "emergency" modes which allow them to make excuses for greater invigilation and e.g. greater police presence on the streets to prevent riots.

Flase flage -> people want more "security" -> invigilation -> more control, (in hard times people always support government) -> power! you have the power and no one quesitons your authority.






Angry Panda, what the hell are you talking about? All we should do is "respect the dead", in human language "do nothing", and allow this to happen in future? Either stupid or "not native french".
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 20:31:26


Benjamin628 
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Just gonna leave this here, decide for yourselves what you think...



Edited 11/20/2015 20:31:32
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 22:08:52


Trump2016
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It probably is a false flag. Just like 9/11. I bet the jews did this too. For evidence of 9/11s false flag status just look up larry silverstein and the dancing israelis. Fuck off panda you shill.


Vormulak.

I have a serious question for you.








How retarded are you?
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 22:11:11


BYG Jacob
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Really? You guys are taking a conspiracy nutter serious?
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 22:51:35


Luna {TJC}
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@BYG Jacob
Implying goverments haven't done worse before.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 22:52:55


Жұқтыру
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And Жұқтыру, you clerly need to see a bigger picture. However it is hard to understand without some "conspiracy theories". Yes, it seems pointless but if those in power who want to have total control over society, they need these "emergency" modes which allow them to make excuses for greater invigilation and e.g. greater police presence on the streets to prevent riots.


Control over society is not a big nor long enough motive. The happening is beginning to fade from public memory; do you recall Madrid in 2004? For 100+ folk dead and inconveniencing French and German politicians, this is nowhere near enough motivation; if it was, why don't other countries have these multi shootings all the time? Furthermore, it destabilises the French folk's faith in France; they may move since they don't feel safe anymore, at worst, and at best, it makes a less patriotic folk.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 23:13:23


BYG Jacob
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New Luna Republic, I wasn't implying anything. Just that conspiracy theorists are a waste of time
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 23:24:19


Lukku
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(I'm new Luna)

@BVG Jacob
Somewhat true but there are some hella fun ones out there.
Paris = false flag: 11/20/2015 23:36:32


BYG Jacob
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I'm of the opinion that there are no fun conspiracy theorists, and Die K, you are a terrible troll
Paris = false flag: 11/21/2015 01:17:06


BYG Jacob
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Well then you're an idiot
Paris = false flag: 11/21/2015 01:24:29


BYG Jacob
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I can only respond to legible English, and some Spanish, want to try again?

Edited 11/21/2015 01:24:50
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