@125ch - how does his beliefs on the creation of the universe affect his ability to be a surgeon? I want a very specific answer and link all the points how or why his non-belief in the big bang makes him unfit to be a surgeon? Moreover do you think the UN/Federal Government/Medical Universities/Hospitals should revoke his ability to be a surgeon because he believes in creationism?


Think carefully about this...if you respond yes you are a fascist and an apologist for totalitarianism.

@pablo wow that is very interesting point on the whole independence debate. Let's see how the other side rebutts.

Most of this vid is true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipe6CMvW0Dg

@125ch - how does his beliefs on the creation of the universe affect his ability to be a surgeon? I want a very specific answer and link all the points how or why his non-belief in the big bang makes him unfit to be a surgeon? Moreover do you think the UN/Federal Government/Medical Universities/Hospitals should revoke his ability to be a surgeon because he believes in creationism?


Think carefully about this...if you respond yes you are a fascist and an apologist for totalitarianism.

Well since you invented all of the accusations you are throwing at me (you know people can read my post on the same page right?), and then you go on to menacing me of calling me a fashist if i happen do give the wrong answer according to your deluded mind, so the only logical response to all of this is to tell you to fuck off.

how does his beliefs on the creation of the universe affect his ability to be a surgeon? I want a very specific answer and link all the points how or why his non-belief in the big bang makes him unfit to be a surgeon?

Sadly, there's a growing faction of people who think that the Big Bang and Evolution are the end all be all of science, and if you don't subscribe to one or both of those than you're a total idiot and everything else you believe is invalid.

But in reality, believing in the Big Bang is not a requirement for being a good surgeon/doctor. It's also not a requirement for being an effective political leader despite what some seem to think .

@pablo - the question is whether these very autonomous states have the right to secede. Note that I did not say that they should secede, only that they should be given their legitimate right to exercise their freedom of self-determination by holding a referendum on independence from their current countries. Also the time of history argument that they've been apart of these countries for X-number of years is fallacious. The basis for any right to secede should be based in the fact if a country is made up of a union of various political entities that differ in their language, majority religion, culture, and ethnicity. (**Note that I used the word "union". This is key. A union is a formal agreement made by members or entities to a contract. Said member has a right to terminate this contract if they feel it is not working in their best interests. At which point both sides would renegotiate or agree to go their separate ways**). Catalonia has significant regional differences from the rest of Spain and in fact it existed on its own previously as the Crown of Aragon. Catalunia has a different dialectic language, tends to contribute more to the economy, and if I am correct is more heavily Roman Catholic. I only argue that these places have the right to secede and I cannot speak to whether they should or should not stay, as that is way above my own political-historical knowledge.

@125ch - so I guess your answer is yes he shouldn't be allowed to be a surgeon. I love how these liberals work. If they don't like your question they don't answer it and instead call you "deluded" and tell you to get out. I didn't call you a fascist. I said if you were to answer in one way it would give evidence to the fact you are a fascist. Those are two different things. It would be the same if I asked someone if all land should belong in the hands of the federal government? If someone said yes I think we would all agree that that person is a communist. Note I am not pre-determining that that person is a communist.

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so I guess your answer is yes he shouldn't be allowed to be a surgeon.

Don't guess, it really doesn't work well for you.

Continue to dance around the question like the expert politician you are.

Oh boy, it's going to get feisty in here real quick. Better get my flame gear out.

haha you think that i'm gonna answer any of that dishonest jerk's questions? I mean look at how he is strawmanning, the guy is a lunatic.

He's not crazy he just likes to be strapped to a chair so he doesn't eat his limbs.

@salty sooooo he's crazy? This is the worst kind of sarcasm humor.

lol what sirsalty that comment has no validity whatsoever. If I was strapped to a chair in an insane asylum do you really think I would be playing warlight?

Also explain how I am using a straw man argument. I want your honest answer to the question I proposed. Your failure to answer it reveals more about you then you would like to admit. Lay all supposed accusations I made and just say "No" I don't think Ben Carson or any other surgeon should not be allowed to practice medicine because they don't believe in the Big Bang.

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see... sheldon cooper with an IQ of 2.5

You know, this thread started off pretty decent, and even sparked some good discussions.

But now it's all gone to hell in record time.

125ch209 said he's a lunatic you fools.

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Now that I look at it he's a Liverpool fan so he must be right.

He's a lunatic.

Lay all supposed accusations I made and just say "No" I don't think Ben Carson or any other surgeon should not be allowed to practice medicine because they don't believe in the Big Bang.

Not when you ask them the way you did.
- first staw man me by implying that i said Ben Carson shouldn't be a surgeon because he is a creationist. I never even remotely implied such a thing.
- Then demanding answers to illegitimate questions
- Then menacing to label me a fascist if i don't answer correctly

my response: fuck you