Yes, as long as you provide some sort of input. Right now it's not a real clan as much as laying the foundation for one so I'm not going to impose any rules as long as we don't get trolls or junk threads.

What sort of input are you looking for?

Personally I like the idea of using a clan, but then I wasn't in a clan before hand. The issue may be that some players may want to get involved but are already in other clans, but in a way that may help make sure those who join are focused on the task at hand :)

Plus don't be haters, this is a project that will take a lot of work and is being built to help the whole Warlight community. As it's clan-based it needs to be properly tested before implementation. Knyte originally was going to keep the whole clan closed but has graciously opened it up to others that may wish to particitate. If you don't want to leave your clan but you still want to contribute then you would be more than welcome, there are many members of clans already working together on this.

I realise no-one has been overly negative and constructive critisism is welcome, I just want to nip this in the bud before the flaming starts is all ;)

@ps: Goals should always be over-ambitious, else they would just be tasks ;)

Well, depends on what kind of help you want. If you wish to, I'll also join with an alt.

@Nogals et al: generally, ideas or any comments based on your own experiences. I've found it worthwhile to interact with the user whenever developing a product. Of course, if you're a developer or have some sort of experience contributing to the WL metagame, that background helps too.

Basically any sort of feedback is welcome.

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personally I've been with only 3 clans. Well I was technically in 4 clans, but the one was before clans become offical with warlight. So pretty much what I can offer is experience.

It doesn't have to be about clans. You almost certainly have a lot of competitive experience; that probably helps just as much, if not a lot more.

The point of Optimum is not to build just another clan to compete with existing clans.

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From my perspective I really want to help develop the front end of Warlight, hopefully tying all the features into a browser extension (much like the "Clean up your Desktop" script) so that everything is easily available to players.

Essentially, features we ask Fizzer to add, we want to put in ourselves.

I think it'd be a little simpler than the userscript (well beyond the boilerplate) since all we'd have to do initially is insert links to off-site resources (like adding CLOT links on the Ladders page).

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I'll help you out with test and can probably make up some ideas on my own. (will be joining with an alt though) ((i also have to make one :/))

Very excited to see what we can accomplish with this.

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I would join as a competitve member (I hate programing) but you would need to be in at least division C in Clan League and have a strong strategic base and/or people who are motivated to learn.

That would be a long way off, right now it's about developing the software that's available to us. Building a general clan will be way after that! ;D

Well, I know little about programming (just the basics) but I'm still learning. I'd be happy to get in with my alt and give you some feedback :)

I know Python, Java, C, assembly, VHDL and MATLAB(if it counts)

I'm not what the exact aim of this project is but it sounds interesting. Message me and I'll send you my alt's info.

Not sure what you're going for, but I screw around quite a bit with Python and Java, so if needed I could help.

I don't think you can say CLOTs haven't taken off. I know ps, unknownsoldier and Krzychu have done some successful CLOTs back in the day.

The randomized bonuses CLOT has about 1800 games so far and still sees regular activity. Can the framework be used by someone who has no software development experience? Probably not. It still is bloody awesome though!

This response comes from someone who is into strategic games. If the OP was from a diplomacy game perspective, please skip my entire post!


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So Optimum exists. The point of Optimum is to develop features like:
Automated real-time matchmaking for members
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This could be a nice feature. Depends on how you plan to implement it though. I think this needs to be warlight wide, not via a clan.




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Interesting leagues run with minimal human effort
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Interested to see what you come up with here. Definitely a pain point today.




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Regular user-tracking to monitor growth and maintain awareness (for clan leaders)
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I don't get why you would need this. Why does a clan need to track anything? Once you admit someone into the clan, as long as they stay active and are not offensive/cheats, they are part of your community. Please stop judging them ;)




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A more straightforward learning environment
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I don't think it is that hard to improve your skill level in this game if you are really interested. The ladders provide a great platform to learn. In my opinion the problem lies with the individual not being proactive enough to improve. I've seen some great examples of players who wanted to learn, ask what they could have done better and are great players today. Most top players are quite open to playing random games with anyone who invites them with the aim of getting better at the game. Have you tried inviting someone better than you to a game?




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A stronger community platform
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Clans of today offer quite a strong community. I'm in two of them. We have great banter and are always learning something off of each other. Most players on Warlight always speak highly of their clan and it's community. I know you're looking for fancy features, but just a chat game and an internal forum can be enough to have so much fun on Warlight.




With that being said, I wish you well with what you're trying to do. I'm not trying to dampen your spirits. I just think you've not yet experienced the sort of clan you're actually looking for. And believe me, it is out there!

CLOTs/etc. are still used by a very small minority of players and there hasn't been a proliferation of ladder alternatives.

Honestly, the framework isn't that hard to use- in fact, someone could just fork your repo and modify some very trivial things (could even be trivially modified to have a single file storing that data and everything else reading that file). The issue is that it takes a lot to make it do some rather simple stuff; also I disagree with quite a few of the design decisions (like using webapp2 or tying it to Google App Engine) and don't think they contribute to the quality.

@japan77: if you have a GitHub, I could add you to the repo. Things should pick up in there starting tomorrow night.

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