I don't have links to every tournament bozo. I hold my members responsible for joining tournaments, but I have no way of knowing who does and who doesn't if nobody involved gives me that information

stop making excuses
there's a well organized thread where you can check everything in your group,and also other groups if you want,if you can't even do that,then you could atleast contact the organizers

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/112988-clan-league-7-division-d2-official-thread

Pooncrew knew because he submitted the lineup. I invited him to the chat game.

And yes, page 1 of that thread states Poons had issues.

The point is that when I make out the lineup for WG, I ask people to rate all the templates so I know what they want to play. Then I fill out the lineup, post it in our WG chat game so everyone knows what they are playing. Then I tell them in said chat to expect an invite to tournaments shortly.

If you did all these things (or Poonsquad in this case since he/she submitted the lineup), then people would know to join without you having to hold their hands.

I also spelled all this out here: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/93697-clan-league-7-preperation-thread (see my 2nd post in there)

Additional comments page 5:
"To clarify, we (usually me) create ALL the tournaments (11 round robins for each division) and invite whoever is provided to me in the given clan lineups. All the clan leader needs to do is make SURE their clan players know an invite will be coming...and that they need to join (and join their clan mate if team format). Nobody will be making games manually (unless someone gets booted off the bat and everyone agrees to a makeup game...we have done that at times), so there isn't any overhead for clan leaders/players. They just need to play and have fun."

I also made a chat game with all the team leaders before making tournaments reminding them it would come soon and to ask for any questions. So, my point is that this is a failure to organize on the clan end, not mine. I spent hours and hours coordinating this, I cannot be held accountable if you lead the horse to water and it does not drink.

Edited 10/29/2015 20:41:23

I'm saying, the organizers should contact me if they're having an issue with someone in my clan. That's kind of on you when you organize a tournament. Take this tournament for example, I hounded the people who didn't join with chat games, mail, and in game messages until they joined because that's my responsibility as the organizer of the event.

I wasn't invited to this chat game

"I'm saying, the organizers should contact me if they're having an issue with someone in my clan. That's kind of on you when you organize a tournament. Take this tournament for example, I hounded the people who didn't join with chat games, mail, and in game messages until they joined because that's my responsibility as the organizer of the event."

BS. If you wanted to be involved, you should have been from the start. Poonsquad sent me mail asking about signing up. Poonsquad sent me their lineup. So naturally, Poonsquad was invited to all communications, along with EVERY player that did not join the tournaments (so at least 4 people in your clan knew for sure). It is not my fault you never made it clear you wanted to be involved in the process. VERY often non-clan leaders run their teams in the league. Benjamin handled his team, not Blortis, for example.

I did hound your members anyway. I sent mail, I made a chat game (because some only play mobile). I gave deadlines and consequences for not joining. There is no way they did not see some form of communication I sent. That is like saying the government is held accountable if someone does not vote, despite sending the ballot. Or that the NBA should had the responsibility for making sure that all players on all teams show up to play every game. That is a junk argument.

Clan leaders should not be signing up people who don't want to play. Take some damn responsibility.

Edited 10/29/2015 20:52:28

Clan league isn't our livelyhood man. I told everyone to join, what more can I do? Maybe if Chris Cum was more organized things would run more smoothly

Edited 10/29/2015 21:13:18

If you did everything you could, tell QB to blame your own players, not ChrisCMU. It sounds to me like Chris went above and beyond to try to involve your players, but you put players in the clan league who didn't want to be there. Not necessarily a huge problem, though it is a problem. However, Poon Squad's failure to join some parts of the clan league can be blamed on the players who didn't join. If it is not their fault, then the blame rests on the clan leaders, not Chris.

ChrisCMU invests large amounts of time into organising all of this for the community. Stop being so selfish, PC & QB. If he wanted to ban The Poon Squad from ever participating again, he could. He clearly isn't taking any BS, this time around, like he did in CL6. If your clan members aren't interested in competing: tough. That is not ChrisCMU's fault, and "Maybe if Chris Cum was more organized things would run more smoothly" is really obnoxious.

I like how the entirety of the Darklordz didn't join their games, but my clans the only one to get ostracized.

Darklordio doesn't spend time filling the forums with his threads.

Darklords don't try to blame it on Chris. Also, PC, there is a chance that Poon Squad might actually appear in CL8, unlike Darklords.

^exactly. I told everyone what I would do if they did not join (give them a filler account that will just get booted). That happened to 4 or 5 clans. You are the only clan acting all surprised that it occurred and blaming me for not getting your people to join.

Chris stop passing the buck. As one of the two leaders of the clan I should have been contacted for this shit. To play off your nba analogy that's like creating a schedule for the league but not telling one owner when his team is supposed to play.

Pooncrew never asked for you to be added to the chat. That's on him.

I definitely did but was told only one owner was allowed because the chat would be too cluttered...

I asked you what's up with Nickovision (he declined EU) and you didn't answer, so he got replaced with an AI. Definitely not on Chris, not on me. One of your players didn't even know what clan league was.

Edited 10/30/2015 00:11:54

last season i was in clan league with the lost wolves. i was not invited to any of the chat games or anything, but i didn't need to be. i thought it was really important for my clan to compete and really REALLY important to not cause extra work for chris. i took my own initiative. i found the forum threads, i copied all the pertinent info and passed it on to everyone competing and made sure they understood what was up. if someone didn't respond to me i mailed them, just to make sure they acknowledged that they read the info. we even had a few practice games before things started. that also helped getting everyone on the same page.

yeah, this is just a game, and it's supposed to be for fun, but this kind of stuff IS fun if everything runs smoothly. when people don't care it's not as smooth and not as fun. keep that in mind when you join stuff like this. a person is actually toiling over a computer to increase your fun and it's not right to make them work any harder than they already are. it doesn't have to be super serious, and it isn't very much workload for the clan leaders, but it does require a little bit of diligence. if all the clans treated it like you did then it probably would not exist.

BTW, i don't think this is said often enough, thanks chris for organizing clan league.