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Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 01:27:30


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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That's the point
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 18:16:59


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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There's some land in the eastern border in the red country that doesn't border
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 20:09:31


MrOobling
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+demonmutantninjazombie
Kiev has 15 development, produces grain and has +10 trade power in an effectively useless trade node. Kiev wasn't the capital of any nation at the time.
To compare, Danzig has 16 development and has +20 trade power in a very important region. It is worth 7. Paris has 32 development (over double Kiev), produces cloth and is the capital of one of the strongest nations at the time. Tirol produces gold and is only worth 5.
If you've got to have a 10 in that region at least make it Novgorod, Vilnius (the capital of Lithuania) or Warsaw (Poland gets an event that increases the value massively).
Also, if you look at the HRE, they are mostly 2, 3 and 4 because the provinces are so small. The most valuable area should be North Italy followed by France and the Low countries which it is.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 20:23:16


Onoma94
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Let's not make it yet another map where Russia pwns everything else :(
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 21:40:48


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Agreed. Make France OP like in Eu4.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 21:51:04


Riveath
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Agreed. Make France OP like in Eu4.


^ this

I want le Big Bleu Blob here too.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/9/2015 22:27:19


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And overpower the Ottomans. Baguette and Kebab must fight!
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/10/2015 01:17:21


prussianbleu
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boooo^

sweden is not op 0/10

-ign

jk noice map m8 is gr8 i r8 8/8

Edited 12/10/2015 01:18:17
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/10/2015 12:15:44


xXOmegaXx
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Kiev has a total of 28 development and is an impotant centre of trade. So, 28 devided by three is 9,33, which is rounded to 9 and the trade centre gives the territory one more value. Paris also has 28 development and is without a centre of trade, so it's worth 9.

That's pretty much how I determine the value. The only trade good that gives more income is gold, which normally adds 1 with the only exception being Tirol which adds 2.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/10/2015 19:59:48


MrOobling
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Omega, you probably got that information from the Wikipedia, which is incorrect. The wiki has not been updated for a long time. If you look at the actual game, it has only 15 development.
Source: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/why-does-lithuania-have-more-development-than-france-in-1444.896466/page-4
The wiki was last updated for 1.12 and the game is now at 1.14. Do you own the game?

EDIT:
the wiki says Kiev has 23 development which, although still incorrect, is not what you said. Where is your source for development?

Edited 12/10/2015 20:08:21
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/11/2015 11:46:40


xXOmegaXx
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Right here: http://www.eu4wiki.com/List_of_provinces

I do it from here since I can name territories and assign their value in one go. But, looking at the development map, it seems that the development is different, so after I finish with all the territories, I'll edit the values using the map.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/14/2015 11:37:42


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Kopet-dag doesn't border Kizil-su in Persia.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/15/2015 01:58:25


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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RELEASE IT PLEASE!!!!
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/15/2015 13:05:54


xXOmegaXx
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Relax, the test game will be up by next week.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/15/2015 19:47:39


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OK. You missed the sea connection between the city of Venice and the other spot.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/15/2015 21:16:05


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I'd love to test, but I'll be busy. I'm going on a long trip over Christmas time. My goal is to set up a custom scenario for the new year.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/15/2015 21:24:38

demonmutantninjazombie
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Missing connection between London and Essex.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/18/2015 17:24:44


xXOmegaXx
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The map is now complete! The test game will be created tomorrow.
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/18/2015 17:49:14


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Count me in! ;)
Occasus Universitas - 1444 AD: 12/18/2015 17:56:22


Riveath
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I'm in as well as a fan of EU IV :)
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