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Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 1/20/2016 13:10:37


Ragnarok
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If you're talking about me, I'm not Holdway. Just ask a moderator.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 1/20/2016 13:16:38


Beren Erchamion 
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I can confirm Holdway is not Peixoto. Besides, we know Peixoto wouldn't have put forth such an extensive well-reasoned argument :P
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 1/20/2016 15:08:16


Sułtan Kosmitów
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:| sorry then accept my apologize both of you. still rules are rules.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 2/1/2016 01:42:27


Beren Erchamion 
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League B has finished all of its games now. Congratulations to Masters for dominating this group and to the Icelandic Turtles for gaining the second promotion spot to A for next season!

Division B					
Clan			1v1	2v2	3v3	Points	Win%
Masters			81	60	60	201	81.82%
Icelandic Turtles	72	56	50	178	72.73%
XS			69	48	20	137	59.09%
Warlighters		54	32	25	111	46.97%
REGL			36	36	20	92	37.88%
BIA			36	8	20	64	27.27%
BR			30	12	15	57	24.24%

Tournament Winners
Strat ME	MASTER	6	0	MotD
Battle Islands	MASTER	6	0	Master Atom
Greece		XS	5	1	Peixoto
Guiroma		MASTERS	6	0	MoD
Strat ME SR	Turtles	5	1	Buns157
Turkey		Turtles	6	0	Sultan
Strat ME SR	MASTER	5	1	MotD/Atom
Guiroma		MASTER	6	0	MoD/Pushover
Szeurope	Turtles	6	0	Buns/Nackickwind
EU SR		MASTER	6	0	Ryiro/MotD/Turtle
EU WR		MASTER	6	0	Atom/MoD/Pushover


This division was quite quickly divided into several strata. Masters ran out to a quick lead, while Turtles and XS were quite even in the fight for 2nd place. Warlighters and REGL for the most part seemed both safe from relegation and unlikely to be able to mount a serious challenge for promotion. BIA and BR were quickly outpaced by the other clans, having to make do with a fight for 6th place.

In the end Masters won comfortably winning 7 tournaments, 6 of which were undefeated. Turtles won 3 tournaments, and Peixoto secured XS's sole tournament win.

Turtles played very well and their tournament win total is indicative of how deserving they were of their promotion to A, but they were undoubted helped by some turmoil XS's ranks. After every other member of XS's clan league roster defected to ONE, it quickly became apparent that their chances of promotion were next to nil as RA proceeded to get booted in each remaining game - 11 in all representing 45 potential points. All told, 134 of XS's 137 points were recorded by players now in ONE.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 2/1/2016 01:42:40


Beren Erchamion 
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Here are my subjective MVPs for each clan:
Masters:
This was between master of desaster (18-0), Master of the Dead (17-1), and Master Atom (17-1). However, MotD and Atom's loss in 2v2 ME cost them their perfect records, making MoD's perfect record stand out. Pushover (12-0) notably was also undefeated.

Turtles:
This was tight between Buns157 (20-4) and Sułtan Kosmitów (19-5), but Buns had a slightly better record over his 4 tournaments.

XS:
XS's MVP was clearly Peixoto (19-5), though Wick (9-3) also played very well.

Warlighters:
timon92 (15-9) is the clear MVP here, as Warlighters's only teams to post winning records contained him. He played significantly better than his record indicates, as his teammate in 2v2 ME was booted in 4 of their 5 losses.

REGL:
hedja (8-4) and Memele (8-4) finished with the same record, but I will give the highly coveted REGL MVP award to hedja, since one of Memele's wins was against the XS 3v3 WR team that was booted in each game. Their resumes are essentially equal though.

BIA:
tartan1314 (3-3), Gajda (3-3), and Botanator (4-8) each had 50% win rates in their 1v1 tournaments, which was the best in BIA.

BR:
JaponeSafado (5-7) had a 3-3 record in a very tough Guiroma tournament.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 2/1/2016 04:11:48


master of desaster 
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All told, 134 of XS's 137 points were recorded by players now in ONE

Enough said. Whoever considers XS to stay in B and ONE! To start at the bottom is a dick. What happened this season was very bad sportmanship from Ra and XS is definitely no clan league B clan by any meaning anymore.

Thanks for the conclusion beren.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 2/1/2016 05:34:20

JSA 
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This case is nearly identical to the Lynx/101st case. Lolowut and Chris said that since Lynx was a "new clan", we must start from the bottom. Even though 101st the previous season had been played 100% by new Lynx members. So the 134/137 points argument wasn't enough back then.

My thinking is that Lolowut and Chris made a huge mistake in the Lynx situation, and set the precedent there. However, let's be honest here. ONE deserves the right to be in Group B, not XS. I mean, technically, yes, rule-wise, XS gains the spot in B. However, I believe this is a case where the rules must be bent. ONE earned the spot in Group B, not XS. Mistakes were made in the past. I see this as a chance for Lolowut and Chris to make up for their decision to put Lynx at the bottom. Lynx knows how ONE feels, and can relate. Let's look at the aftermath of the Lynx decision. 101st gets beat up in Groups A and B, as expected. Lynx dominates in Groups C and B, as expected. It was a waste of both of our times. Lynx had a better team the two previous seasons, and could have competed much better in Group A. 101st would have been better off playing clans of their own skill level.

So here's my proposal for an amendment to the earlier rule. The earlier rule basically said that if the old clans plays the next season, the "new" clan must start from the bottom. That rule was implied in the Lynx/101st decision. I propose to change this rule so that if a new clan had scored 75% or more of the points for the old clan in the previous season, the new clan gets the old clan's spot, while the old clan starts from the bottom. This is the fairest way to do it.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 2/1/2016 06:32:22


Deadman 
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Thanks for the summary Beren. For once, I agree with your subjective opinion :P

I completely agree with MoD and JSA here. In my opinion, XS had a great shot at promotion to Group A until those boots. ONE! should get the spot in group B.
Clan League #7 Group B: Official Thread: 2/1/2016 07:43:13


Strategos
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I hope the organizers completely disregard what people are saying and demote One anyway. Then Fizzer's management style could pervade all of WL.

If you want One in B, make a Uservoice...

Edited 2/1/2016 07:43:30
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