I think it's great to show all 3, but to rank the clans by points won.

@Turkish et al: Just put the numbers in Excel (or Google Sheets) and generate a graph.

guys i was gne the whole weekend and got booted in picking is there a change i could redo it? couse it was in picking?

I bet Darklords wish they could have a do over after they didn't join the games.

hmm thanks

1.) VIW 97 points, 231 max
2.) SNinja 52 points, 215 max
2.) Stahlgewittern 60 points, 213 max
4.) LEA 29 points, 195 max
5.) 101st 31 points, 180 max
6.) FBG 25 points, 176 max
7.) Lost Wolves 21 points, 161 max
Not a lot of changes here. VIW continues to be a solid 1st in the tournament. SNinja and Stahlgewittern are essentially tied in 2nd. The gap between 101st and FBG has narrowed a bit. The Lost Wolves are still a solid last.

Edited 11/5/2015 03:13:15

@Turkish or anyone else, if you want to make a graph like the one in Division D1, message me and I can set up an excel sheet for your division.

Edited 11/2/2015 23:49:33

Yes, could we get a do-over of this game? Assuming that both players want to replay the game.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9743583

@Rogue Nikolai Krogius - the thing with Darklords is that many of their players didn't even join the tournaments. So they shouldn't have to waste everyone's time trying to redo their games. Their clan league ranking and rating are true to their skill level anyways, so I see no point.

Thats a valid point.

If you want to redo a game, you would have to ask ChrisCMU directly.

there no rules against redo as in A Ollie&Lobstrocity played replacement games

I can certainly empathize with VIW Moo. I think we all wish we could have redo’s on some of the games from which we’ve been booted in the past. And, no offense to the Wolf clan, but given Moo’s record, it’s a safe bet he would have won that game easily—had he joined in time.

But playing that (or any) game over would be unfair to all those who joined their respective games before getting booted. The Boot deadline is just like any other setting in the game and must be honored. The Boot deadline is there for a reason—especially in these games where it’s not just the individual performance which is at stake, but the performance of the clan.

You could accuse me of being biased, but I hope the logic of the argument stands on its own. :)

PS: Why did Ollie & Lobstrocity replay their game?

I believe Redos may be done if everyone involved agrees. (All players+ organizers)

+1 TBest, that's what I think too, may be wrong though

Ollie and Lob replayed their game because either:

a) Ollie's internet failed on him and Lob was nice enough to redo
b) Ollie is a massive derp and Lob was nice enough to redo

Either way, Lob agreed to have a redo. Seeing as both parties involved were both for a redo, I think that would be a generally accepted rule. You can't force a redo on someone if not all parties are in favour. Bottom line is, Lob is a cool guy :P

Edited 11/3/2015 21:33:17

Define "...all players" or "...everyone involved", please.

In a 1v1 outside of a tournament, ladder, or clan battle, a redo affects only the two combatants. In a clan battle or tournament with rankings, however, wouldn't ALL players be affected by that redo? It looks like it may not make much difference in our Division (at the moment, but of course, we hope to change that!), but it could affect the final rankings if VIW Moo is allowed to redo the game, which currently counts as a loss. If Ninjas or Stahl were to beat VIW in a late match, it could be a very tight race for the 1-2 spots in Div C.

The way lob and Ollie set it up, I define "all players" as the players in the game. If that was the case accepted there, I'd expect it to be accepted here. I don't know who calls the shots though. Is it the division host (almost)? Is it Chris? Is it the people playing the game? Whoever that is, has the answer :P

1.) VIW 108 points, 231 max
2.) SNinja 55 points, 215 max
3.) Stahlgewittern 60 points, 200 max
4.) LEA 33 points, 191 max
5.) 101st 42 points, 172 max
6.) FBG 33 points, 163 max
7.) Lost Wolves 21 points, 156 max
SNinja and Stalgewittern are close as well as LEA and 101st. I think this is the correct ranking for now, though.

I don't want to be a jerk or anything, but MoOoOoOoOoO was almost guaranteed victory.

He will still likely win the tournament regardless, but it just adds an unnecessary loss.

A redo is something the two players must agree to do, then discuss it with Chris. It's not anyone else's decision on whether to redo the tournament.

@Whoever mentioned the Darklords:

2 of their players on the roster joined all of their tournaments. FK was in 1v1s, all of which he was booted from, one an auto win. MrHymen on 2v2 won a game with an AI (my alt) against a team with 2 boots I think. So Darklords have completed 0 games with full teams, and have 1 auto-win from 1v1, where a member of the Poon Squad did not join.

Edited 11/5/2015 03:47:40

No one is a jerk, Awesome, we’re all just discussing the logic of the situation. I think everyone agrees Moo would have most likely won---*had* he joined the game in time. But he didn’t. So he lost. Usain Bolt could win almost any race he enters. But he *has to enter* the race to win. He has to show up for the match. Moo didn’t. Why do we have the Boot deadline if we’re not going to honor it? That’s the main issue, as I see it.

The secondary issue, is letting Moo replay the game may affect the final standings between VIW, Ninjas, & Stahl. The outcome of Moo and Seizure’s game could influence the final standings. Now, it looks as though VIW will advance to Div B without difficulty. BUT (and this is a small probability ‘but’), there’s a chance that VIW could lose a few of their final matches and drop in the rankings. If Moo is allowed to replay his game, it affects more than just him and his opponent—it affects the rankings overall. And that’s not fair to all the players who joined their games before the Boot deadline.