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Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 15:18:27


Angry Koala
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I noticed that Ion Antonescu is still here insulting people, having racist, offensive comments, it's been 5 days people reported him, nothing happened... Same thing happened for Tyrion and his alts.

Fizzer could you please consider our reports, and ban them permanently? Do not wait too long please.

Thank you for your consideration.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 15:19:11


Belgian Gentleman 
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general topic < off topic
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 15:19:30


Fan the Apostle
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Fizzer lazy or too permissive?

Both , same thing goes with Mercer
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 15:20:48


Angry Koala
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it is not off topic since it is about Warlight, more precisely its forums, and I consider it as an important topic because it's been at least 3 weeks our forums are massively attacked by trolls, first thing should be to consider our reports and not wait 1 week to ban someone.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 15:22:34


Fan the Apostle
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1. Mods have no power
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 15:31:47


Cata Cauda
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Fizzer only cares about $$$ so ya....
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 16:34:30


Vormulak
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hes doing a great job.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 16:45:40


Angry Koala
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Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 17:41:14


Luna {TJC}
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Why does everyone seem to dislike fizzer? He seems a-okay or am I naive to his secret evil?

Edited 10/5/2015 17:41:52
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 18:00:07


Vormulak
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lol thanks Koala I needed a good laugh
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 20:11:42


powerpos
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Why does everyone seem to dislike fizzer? He seems a-okay or am I naive to his secret evil?


He's the guy who does all the work, so he gets the blame if not enough work is done.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/5/2015 22:08:05


ChrisCMU 
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There is nobody else to blame because nobody else can do anything about it.

I don't know what user you are talking about. I assume Fizzer knows (you referenced reporting him) in some manner. However, it is possible to report someone and give him very little to work with. I suggest when you report someone, you provide links to the threads (may or may not have been done). This way he can easily see what is reported. He is a very busy person, if you don't make it easy, he might just give up searching for the content, or not do it at all...I have no idea.


So basically, keep in mind his workload, and that he's not making a bunch of money off this...and help him help you.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/6/2015 13:21:00


Vormulak
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whats with the guy linked above so hes a neo nazi or a troll who cares. Leave him be and move on.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/6/2015 15:53:08

inquisitor
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I have reported a rigged game with a custom scenario recently. It hasn't been processed as far as I am aware.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/6/2015 16:09:05

inquisitor
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Case

A rigged game was created on 30 Sep, and got reported.
That rigged game is still going on today.
The developer still hasn't taken any action to remove the rigged game after one week!!

The rigged game:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9546482

Only he can capture the winning spot because only he has army. Others are all stuck in their original spots.

Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 03:55:36


Major General Smedley Butler
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If you join such a blantantly rigged game you have no one to blame but yourself.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 04:10:41


[REGL] Pooh 
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+1 Major
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 04:27:40


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It's not against the rules to rig games just check the template settings before you join.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 04:50:47


Vormulak
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I concur with major I say this all the time. You deserve it honestly. Your laziness must result in consequences until you learn to check settings
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 04:54:20

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If you join such a blantantly rigged game you have no one to blame but yourself.


I haven't joined the game myself.

Yep I know someone will say it is their faults for not checking settings carefully. Yes they are careless, but does it make it right to cheat people in this way, even less let them keep cheating the innocent? There is news that a conman preyed on the elderly and conned them out of thousands of dollars. Would you say they are just stupid enough to fall for that, we shouldn't help them, just let the conman keep conning people? Of course not.

It's not against the rules to rig games just check the template settings before you join.


Yes it is. Someone got banned finally because they made rigged games (like the case above) to cheat wins and gain massive points.
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/111306-make-3-rigged-games-level-41

Edited 10/7/2015 04:58:00
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 07:41:46


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There is an extremely easy way to avoid joining rigged games, settings. i doubt it was as easy for the elderly to know the conman was cheating them.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 07:50:26


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I looked through the ToS (Terms of Service) although i couldn't find anything about rigging games being against the rules it was probably terminated because it was an alt. If not then this (which is apart of the ToS) dictates they can terminate an account without or with very little reason.

7. Termination
A. Warlight's Right to Termination
Warlight reserves the right to terminate Your Account, limit or prohibit your participation in any game or game for without any reason. Immediate termination will result for obvious reasons, including, but not limited to, any violation of these Terms and Conditions, improper conduct or abuse by You as set forth in section 13. By registering for an Account, You consent to allow Warlight to access Your Account information to, among other things, investigate complaints or other allegations of abuse. Please note that in certain circumstances where Your Account is closed by Warlight for a violation of these Terms and Conditions, Your winnings may be voided and not returned to You. In such an event, Warlight may use these winnings to defray the costs of administration and enforcement of these Terms and Conditions.


Edited 10/7/2015 07:51:11
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 09:57:05

inquisitor
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I guess it might not be as easy as one thinks. I keep seeing people falling for it (even players with high levels). Some people join many games every day, but honestly will you always check all settings carefully each time before you join a game?

If the host says it is a lottery or strategic game (using the standard template), people generally trust the host. People do not expect they are so ill-minded to set up fake ones.

Yes rigged games are against the rules. I'm certain about this. They are actually cheating to win, and cheating is not permitted. He talked about it briefly in the live chat last time. I reported many of them. The rigged game which violates the rules will be deleted. The cheater might have points taken away, or a ban (repeated or serious offender).

Some say all reports will be processed, but it doesn't look like so in reality.

Edited 10/7/2015 09:59:06
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 11:06:02

Cepheus
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It's interesting. Tyrion was undoubtedly a horrific person on the forums, but when he was playing as part of our clan, he was actually a reasonably good member, making good scenarios, and not acting toxically in game. I suppose it shows that trolls just want to troll, and play the game in a normal manner when they're not.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 11:52:15


Major General Smedley Butler
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It's custom scenario on a lottery map. They're that stupid and joining is basically helping the host level up. And the elderly couple lost something of worth.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 13:47:07


shyb
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regardless of what anyone thinks about cheaters and those that get cheated, warlight is a business. and businesses don't like to lose money. if an inexperienced player finds too many games like this they will simply quit playing, and fizzer will lose money. it doesn't matter whether or not a person reads the settings. it doesn't matter who is to blame (though blaming the victim and excusing the cheater is pretty shitty). the only thing that matters is getting new people to play and keep them playing. rigged lotteries accomplish neither of those things, and may drive new people away. if fizzer is smart he will stop this sort of thing.

i suggest a big fat pop up when you click on a CS game that says something like: "this game uses a custom scenario which may be unbalanced and unfair. please read the settings carefully before joining". then maybe add the option to turn off the pop up in settings. and i think making all CS games practice is a good idea.

also, from my experience in playing diplos, too many people don't know how to view the scenario. a more visible "view scenario" button would help a lot. maybe put it right on top in the settings or as an extra button in the lobby.

maybe you think it's more work for fizzer to coddle noobs, but it is also potentially more ad money/memberships/etc. (good for fizzer), which may lead to more updates, better servers, warlight continuing to be viable, etc (good for us).
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 14:03:47


ChrisCMU 
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I don't even understand we we allow lotto games at all (rigged or not). It undermines the membership, which basically offers nothing someone can't unlock by playing a bunch of lotto games. It is not a great business model to allow people to bypass a significant revenue stream so easily. I know we can hide these games, so it doesn't really bother me at all. I just don't understand the business side there.

We just end up with higher level people who have never really learned how to play.

Edited 10/7/2015 14:04:11
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 14:06:29


Eklipse
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+1 shyb. I couldn't agree more.

Experienced players should know better than to fall for rigged games, but noob to mid-level players aren't always that aware. Also, I don't find myself being a fan of the logic that joining a rigged game is totally the fault of the person conned and that the rigged game maker should somehow be free of blame.
Is Fizzer lazy or too permissive?: 10/7/2015 15:21:06


Vormulak
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I would. Let the conman get away with stealing that is. Also theres something I do to avoid rigged matches, I dont join matches, I only host that way ik what the settings are which map it is and if everything is balanced without having to check. I also tell anyone who thinks im cheating to take it to forums. As you can see no one has complained thus far and I obviously trust myself not to rig matches.

Edited 10/7/2015 15:25:40
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