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Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:30:27


Angry Koala
Level 57
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As I cannot post in the "ladder section" I am posting here, I suprisingly discovered that you can no longer join ladders freely, meaning you have to purchase a 40$ membership to have a free access and play a ladder game now... Why this sudden change? Any other possibility to join ladders?
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:32:10


Fc Bayern
Level 63
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Wwwwwhat?
Are you kidding?
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:32:45


Cata Cauda
Level 58
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Maybe your level is too low????
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:34:01


Bayern München is the best!
Level 60
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14 level. You need 43 to get RT ladder....lol
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:35:20


Cata Cauda
Level 58
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49lv for 1vs1
52lv 2vs2
53lv seasonal

Cmon start running for it.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:35:44


Buns157 
Level 67
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You need to unlock them with levelling, thought you would know this with your main. Next time do a little research before creating BS threads.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:36:02


Angry Koala
Level 57
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wait are you sure Bayern?
when i try to join it, it is written "buy a membership" I will try to paste a copy of the page soon.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:36:42


Min34 
Level 60
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Its still free, you just need to unlock it
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:36:47


Angry Koala
Level 57
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Buns no need to be rude, I just wanted an explanation and got it finally, my previous account was quite old even before levels existed, sorry if I did not have this knowledge -_-
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:37:35


Cata Cauda
Level 58
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Just use your main account instead???
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:38:14


Angry Koala
Level 57
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I cant Cata.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:38:28


Cata Cauda
Level 58
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Why not?
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:41:53


Angry Koala
Level 57
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mmmh because I purposely retired, I wanted to delete my account at first, but seeing it was not possible in WL, I had no other solution than change randomly my password, so yeah this acccount is dead as I cannot sign in ahahah ^^'
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:46:20


Bayern München is the best!
Level 60
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wait are you sure Bayern?
when i try to join it, it is written "buy a membership" I will try to paste a copy of the page soon.



Yes I'm. 43 for RT ladder. 49 for 1v1 ladder. 52 for 2v2 ladder. 53 for seasonal ladder. As Cata said.
If you are lower level,you can unlock them by purchasing a membership.

mmmh because I purposely retired, I wanted to delete my account at first, but seeing it was not possible in WL, I had no other solution than change randomly my password, so yeah this acccount is dead as I cannot sign in ahahah ^^'


You can try to solve it randomly lol...The same random how it changed it... Wait a second,you have to repeat it... So you know it. Lier.

Edited 9/20/2015 13:50:32
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:48:55


Angry Koala
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thanks for all your informations.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:50:13


Cata Cauda
Level 58
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mmmh because I purposely retired, I wanted to delete my account at first, but seeing it was not possible in WL, I had no other solution than change randomly my password, so yeah this acccount is dead as I cannot sign in ahahah ^^'

Who is that dumb and intentionally change to a random password? O right, you..


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Edited 9/20/2015 13:51:22
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:52:32


Bayern München is the best!
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Who what thinks about You can try to solve it randomly lol...The same random how it changed it... Wait a second,you have to repeat it... So you know it. Lier. ?
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:54:48


Angry Koala
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yeah xD well I had a reason and if you really want to know then I can explain everything elsewhere, this is not the place for it.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:55:52


Angry Koala
Level 57
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and bayern i dont get your point here
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 13:57:52


Master Ryiro 
Level 62
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well if you retired on your main before levels existed then there's no use of going back to your main just for ladders because it'll be somewhere around level 1
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 14:18:07


OxTheAutist 
Level 58
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His main was level 58.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 15:19:53


wakanarai 
Level 58
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https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Levels#Levels_6.2B

that link and then go to lvl 43 and it says you can join RT ladder and post on ladder forum
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 15:21:34


Angry Koala
Level 57
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got it thanks again everybody.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 16:25:22


wolervine
Level 55
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Bayern. I got to 43 on Friday, now I can do the ladder. I couldn't see anywhere it was written, though, but when I did think there was a message that I could now ladder.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 16:33:49

RvW 
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I wanted to delete my account at first, but seeing it was not possible in WL, I had no other solution than change randomly my password, so yeah this acccount is dead as I cannot sign in ahahah ^^'

Do you remember the email address you used to create the account, and do you still have access to it? If so: https://www.warlight.net/ForgetPassword

Who is that dumb and intentionally change to a random password?

I know at least one person who I consider to be anything but dumb who used this trick before. Nowadays it doesn't really work any more (just about every site has a password-reset option), but intentionally locking yourself out does seem like the next best thing when outright deleting an account is not possible.

Wait a second,you have to repeat it... So you know it. Lier.

While you cannot copy-paste from a password field (to Notepad or something), it's very much possible to enter some random gibberish in Notepad and then copy-paste it to a password field (and the repeat-password field).
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 17:01:09


Angry Koala
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RvW I purposely changed my password and mail that way my account would be "dead", and well then why cannot we delete an account in Warlight RvW? Because I remember to have read somewhere that (at least in Europe according to the European Law) you have a right to delete an account in any website, do not let the right to delete an account or the right "to be forgotten" is against the law, just saying.
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 19:02:19


Dublin Warrior 
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Koala,
First, I'm sorry that people are going out of their way to be unhelpful and rude.
That's not cool.
In particular, I expect that my own clan mates would behave better.

Second, perhaps you could mail Mr. Fizzer about proving your identity
and getting your access back again.

Since you were intentionally trying to make it impossible to gain access,
he might be unwilling to help, but its worth a shot. :)

Edited 9/20/2015 19:03:27
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 19:27:17


OxTheAutist 
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Well, he did rename the account "(retired)" and it was level 58. It would take until level 63 to rename it again...
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 19:30:00


wakanarai 
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you can change name with money or coins as well
Ladders are no longer free?? really?: 9/20/2015 20:57:13

RvW 
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I purposely changed my password and mail that way my account would be "dead",

Oww... if you changed your email as well, I'm out of ideas, sorry. :(

and well then why cannot we delete an account in Warlight RvW?

I'm not Fizzer, so I cannot give a definite answer. However, I am a programmer and one possible reason would be database integrity. WL stores all games ever played *) and all forum posts. If you remove a player account, you cannot properly store a game in which that player played, same problem with forum threads in which that account posted. You could try some hacky semi-solutions, but chances are it will get very messy and not really work properly anyway.

*) Except map-testing games, for reasons which are actually kinda related to data integrity.

Because I remember to have read somewhere that (at least in Europe according to the European Law) you have a right to delete an account in any website, do not let the right to delete an account or the right "to be forgotten" is against the law, just saying.

I'm no lawyer, so please forgive me if there's some rough edges and I might get some details wrong, but in broad strokes:

The "right to be forgotten" applies to search engines. The idea behind the law is something like this:
Let's say person X gets arrested, for some reason their trial gets tons of media attention and after much stuff, they get cleared of all charges. A little while later, they apply for a new job. The HR department sees the resume, goes to Google and searches for "person X" (their name). First page is still filled with "Person X arrested on (very bad) charges" ("Person X innocent" gets buried on page 20+ or something)...
Now, asking the newspapers to remove all those articles from their archives would be bad (since it would mean censoring history). The "right to be forgotten" tries to address the issue by preventing search engines from returning "accurate, but no longer relevant (and unnecessarily damaging)" results.
I see no way in which the right to be forgotten could possibly apply to WL. Storing old games is just an archive and they are exactly the things which are not affected. (Also, it's a Europe-only right; with WL not having a European version, it would be very awkward to try to get it to comply with it. Keep in mind that even when a result gets removed from European versions of the Google index, it will still be found when you search on a non-European version of Google and/or from an IP address for which Google can determine it's non-European.

The law about removing accounts does (more or less) exist, except it's not about accounts, it's about personal information. Again, European law does not apply to Warlight, but even if it did (or, if the USA happens to have a similar law), it would not allow you to demand removal of the account, it would only let you demand the removal of personal information (such as zeroing out your email address; I'm unsure whether it would allow you to demand the removal of public chat and forum posts... I don't think so). A further restriction is that you can only demand removal if the information is no longer necessary; if you ever paid with a credit card, WL would be well within its rights (probably would be forced) to keep that information, because financial laws (accountability) require it.
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