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Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/2/2015 15:07:29


ChrisCMU 
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Not sure if Fizzer is taking suggestions for the next ladder, but here is a recap of what has been played:


Season	Map	        Settings
I	Medium Earth	Strat, %16 WR, Light Fog, Cycle move, 0s in dist.
II	Medium Earth	Strat, %16 WR, Light Fog, Cycle move
III	EA&O	        Strat, %16 WR, Cycle move, 3s in dist.
IV	Medium Earth	Strat, %0 SR, Cycle move
V	Battle Isle V	Strat, %0 SR, Cycle move
VI	Medium Earth	Strat, %16 WR, no wastelands, Auto Dist.
VII	Heavy Earth	%16 SR, 1 army starts, 1 neutrals, 2s in dist.
VIII	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %16 WR, Randomized Bonuses
IX	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %0 WR (%85 def kill), Cycle move, Random bonus
X	Four Castles	4 way FFA, Strat, %16 WR, Army cap
XI	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %16 WR, Light Fog, Cycle move, Local Deploy
XII	Turkey	        No luck Cycle, Local Deploy
XIII	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %0 WR, Cycle, Local Deploy, Random bonus
XIV	Romanium	%16 SR, 15 wastes of 3, cities = 0
XV	Poland	        %0 SR
XVI	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %16 WR, No Split Mode
XVII	Ancient Greece	%0 SR, NC, 10 wastelands of 5
XVIII	Snow Mountains	%0 SR, no luck cycle
XIX	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %0 SR, no luck cycle, Multi Attack, Light Fog
XX	Mod Med Earth	Strat, %0 SR, no luck cycle, Multi Attack, Light Fog, Local Deploy


Edited 9/2/2015 15:33:55
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Beren • apex 
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Season VI was auto-distribution as well as lacking wastelands.
Season IX had randomized bonuses.

Edited 9/2/2015 15:21:52
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/2/2015 15:34:04


ChrisCMU 
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corrected, thanks.
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iNsAnE
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auto distribution would be fun
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Phoenix
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iNsAnE "auto distribution would be fun"

No that would be iNsAnE!!

Edited 9/2/2015 15:40:24
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ChrisCMU 
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NO to auto dist. We just had two with multi attack, are you trying to drive all strategic players away?

last two have been on MME. I'd guess a new map, but the usual have all been played (Turkey, Greece, Romanium). Maybe he'll pick a new one not used yet.

The only new setting we have is bomb card. Though I wonder if Fizzer has tried SZE's limited full distribution idea.

Here is his on ME...
Template: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=636169
Game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8513877

And I copied his idea to GL...
Template: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=636221
game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8514784

Could also do one on my Pangea: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526943 or the one done by Blortis.

Anyone have ideas?

Edited 9/2/2015 19:34:07
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szeweningen 
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=634686

Use this, settings can be tweaked a bit in any direction, but from testing it seems those settings have great strategic value for 1v1.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/2/2015 18:04:20


ChrisCMU 
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We have not had a Europe Seasonal yet.

I'm still curious why Fizzer is hesitant to do a set team ladder (said so on last live stream). It wouldn't be much work (I am sure he has the logic for matchups in the 2v2 ladder).

I mean we did FFA already.

Edited 9/2/2015 18:04:33
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Krzysztof 
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I can expect many template propositions posted here. Could you guys post game links instead of templates. It's easier to check.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/2/2015 19:20:15


Beren • apex 
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This template on Earthsea is my new favourite at the moment:

It has limited full distribution with a variable number of starts per player (between 4-6).
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9301078

Edited 9/2/2015 19:23:08
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ChrisCMU 
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Good call Krzychu. I added game links to mine (could not find one for Pangea as I think they were all during testing).
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master of desaster 
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i like that template beren but i would add Cards, Standard ones like in the 1vs1 ladder and maybe add 1-2picks
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/2/2015 21:40:04


hedja 
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^^^ The Earthsea template is pretty good. In that tournament and the games are very interesting. I find it to play quite a lot like the treasure island template (at least that's how my games have panned out thus far)
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/4/2015 23:11:31


indibob 
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i for one will miss the current settings and it was my first experience off Multi attack and LD together.
The games were generally very tense and exciting and to whoever said it wasn't strategic... wow, those settings produced far more strategy than a regular 1v1 game, especially one involving luck like the 1v1 ladder uses.
I hope Fizzer continues to shake things up and keep the excitement of the seasonal ladder going
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/5/2015 06:23:41


[WM] Gnuffone 
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sure, i heard next season will be quadruel, 100% WR luck, ton of cards, LD, multiattack, no split mode, and ofc, the best card ever, the bomb card!

RIP seasonal ladder.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/5/2015 06:29:39


Latnox 
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Well I have fun in this seasonal :)
Just because many players don't have good strategy for MA, it doesn't mean it's not strategic.

Edited 9/5/2015 20:24:14
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Grosshandlaren
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WGL 3.10 no 1 was a fun tournament imo https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=15204

game link (final) https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9285172

not sure if there is a template out there with multi-day settings
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/5/2015 06:58:08


indibob 
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"sure, i heard next season will be quadruel, 100% WR luck, ton of cards, LD, multiattack, no split mode, and ofc, the best card ever, the bomb card!"

you forgot 100% Offensive and Defensive kill rates ;)
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/6/2015 01:52:09


Wick 
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+1 for earthsea. And the variable number of starts is neat

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9301078

Also I enjoyed the current season MA+LD. LD turns a lot of the traditional 1v1 strat wisdom on its head

Edited 9/6/2015 02:01:12
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 08:12:28


[WM] Gnuffone 
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maybe next seasonal ladder could MME 0% no luck cycle with randomize bonus? :)
normal fog, no MA or LD, standard 1v1 ladder card.

Edited 9/8/2015 08:15:55
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Arkanton
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+1 for Gnuffone idea
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indibob 
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as long as it's no luck meaning SR not WR it sounds good
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[WM] Gnuffone 
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Yeah 0% SR.
And with randomize bonus i meant that bonus can assume value n-1 n or n+1 at 33%.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 10:28:06


Chaos
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and allow me to add .. that they must allow 60 days vacation so a player can start the game take a teritory .. and then ... vacation .. is nice strategy to get a win from the HIGh COuncyl of WL

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9178619
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 11:03:16


Krzysztof 
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+1 for randomized bonuses 0% SR
but please get rid of No-luck cycle. Fizzer himself admitted that's not a good option for ladders, so why he still use it in seasonals.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 12:23:57


[WM] Gnuffone 
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Because with randomize bonus is crucial counterpick best bonus and best is know in advance if i am gonna try to get 1st pick with a super fast risky picks or slow pick, with lot of thinking but getting 2 and 3.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 13:37:30


iNsAnE
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anything except MME.

i dont understand y u would play it if we have that on ladders?

the seasonal should be no MME in my opinion.

its so freaking boring
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 13:50:45


Beren • apex 
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We've had 2 in a row on MME. Time for something different...

@Gnuffone, we already had a season with 0% SR and cycle on ME. What you're proposing is far too similar to that.

Edited 9/8/2015 13:51:44
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 14:30:13


Buns157 
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+1 insane.

Hopefully the seasonal this time is on a map that has not been played on ladders before.

I also hope for no multi attack, it got annoying so far into this season.
Next Seasonal Ladder?: 9/8/2015 14:30:13


Buns157 
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Edited 9/8/2015 16:10:33
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