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Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 14:46:56


Potatoe
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The first of it's kind I've seen anyways so I'm claiming it's as my own..

Why am I doing this?

To facilitate diplomacy players the league will be here. :)

- Custom Scenario all nations equal...

- 6 Players (Maybe more)

- 6 games.

- Winner of Each game gets 6 points. Second place = 5 points Third = 4........ and so on.

This is easy to hold this tournament as no creation of a tournament is needed unlike bigger tournaments I've held like the Champions league and soon the Europa League.. So no worries there :)

Alliances doesn't carry over in the next game... Cmon guys don't take advantage of this and team up.. Mix it up a bit :)

EDIT - There has been alot of changes so please read the posts in the thread!
We could have a diplomacy league... Like A B C D If we get a huge outcry of numbers.. Again It's easy for me to handle..

Now What do the diplomacy players make of this?

I don't care if you don't like Diplomacy go and make a tournament and see how you do with it posts here will be just ignored... Don't be a twat.. It's as simple as that guys :)




We don't need 6 I can facilitate more :)


Thoughts?

Edited 9/19/2015 15:56:17
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 14:51:48


huzaifa
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how do i join?
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 14:56:56


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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I want to join, too.
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 14:57:15


Potatoe
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You declare you want to join. I add you to participant list. I invite to games.. Do your best I count your scores and I tell you where you came! simples!
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 15:16:50


Fan the Apostle
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I want to join 2

BTW what's the map
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 15:36:40


powerpos
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Is this a diplomacy(roleplay) or a FFA with custom-scenario ?
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 15:51:39


Zephyrum 
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This would fail so hard.

1) A diplo needs RP elements, for RP to exist it needs a solid background story. In a fully balanced 6 man game it's basically not gonna happen

2) People do hold grudges even if subconsciously. Wars will most likely be carried over to the next game.

3) Being very competitive, a game under that system would likely have a lot of people doing all kinds of things to win - a diplo tends to have no winners.

4) 6 people isn't really much of a diplo. :P
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 17:11:20


Potatoe
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Than lets work together and make this work!

"1) A diplo needs RP elements, for RP to exist it needs a solid background story. In a fully balanced 6 man game it's basically not gonna happen" For elements we can take people backgrounds storys in templates we will ask them for permission for use of their template.. That way an element is their..

"2) People do hold grudges even if subconsciously. Wars will most likely be carried over to the next game."

This is an issue. I won't lie.. But could you say making peace or alliances with your enemys could be a skill? + It's not going to be every game their bordering with eachother right?

"3) Being very competitive, a game under that system would likely have a lot of people doing all kinds of things to win - a diplo tends to have no winners."

Well thats true.. Thats why if players VTE.. Lets say under the current point system I'm proposing.. 1st 2nd 3rd make a total of 15 points right? So share it out 5 points each that way...


"4) 6 people isn't really much of a diplo. :P"

If there is Interest I will revise the numbers no problem.

But with issue #2 We could have 10 pots.. Each with 6 pots. making a total of 60 players.. The pots would be drawn randomly... There will be 6 games with 6 different opponents each time that way that issue is gone as it's complete random all the time? Would that work...
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/30/2015 19:58:57


Tjoex
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I'd like to join if there's a place left
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 22:46:11


Potatoe
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We need 2 more! :)
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 22:49:27


Phobos
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I am so up for this :D absolutely great idea
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 22:57:26


Ω Cat Juggernaut 
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Count me in!
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:05:21


Potatoe
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Right.. I can have more people..

Also guys, I need good diplomacy templates.

I will accept any and will consider them.

Before diplomacy template makers point the gun..

I will ask for permission for each template :)

Lets make this happen people!
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:06:26


OnlyThePie
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I'll join, but only if you put it up to like, 14 or 15 people, 6 is way too small for any reasonable diplo game.

I can set up a scenario for you, given most of my current ones need at least like, 25 players.

Edited 8/31/2015 23:07:36
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:07:20


Potatoe
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I have no Idea what the interest is for a league like this..

And I did say I am accepting more

6 was the mininum :)
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:08:14


OnlyThePie
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Since you posted after my edit, i'll say it again

I can set up a scenario or two, i just can't use any of my premade ones, cause they need like, 25 people.
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:12:52


natto
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this sounds amazing please count me in
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:13:31


Phobos
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Im also happy to make a scenario but I would need a fixed number otherwise the template would be useless if 1 more player joins
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:14:46


Potatoe
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By the looks of it, We are gaining numbers.

@OnlyThePie Send me any template even if it doesn't suit. We are picking up numbers and it could be suitable.. Send me the link if interested! And if so Is it yours?!!?!

Edited 8/31/2015 23:15:07
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:16:13


Potatoe
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I understand..

We will wait till the numbers dry up.. When it does we will close the window for people to join the league and there we will have a fixed number! :)

This suit you guys?
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:18:51

TBest 
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I would love to be a player :)
Diplomacy League! :D: 8/31/2015 23:36:06

Ryzys
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I'd like to play as well
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 00:08:19

kirdol
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Count me in pls
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 00:14:39


Zephyrum 
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I'd also develop a scenario more than happily given a set number. I'd love to join, but even thyough the grudges thing can sorta be solved, the competitivity of the players are REALLY going to damage to process, as diplos aren't made to be competitive. In a diplo league, competitivity levels are beyond that of your average multiday. So it's risky.
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 00:24:43


Zephyrum 
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Also, I suggest using claim/pick diplomacy templates or anything of the kind. Reason? Well, simply because it's possible to properly counterpick in these templates. e.g in the 2014 map a common pick is to start in Nangcha, for a quick acces to a HUGE early income, and a common counterpick is Urumqi that allows you to take so many territories that by turn 3 you'll have him stuck while you're still growing, and you'll be able to declare war turn 3 for an easy expansion. That's the charm of pick/claim diplos, you're capable of putting your warlight skill into real test unlike in slots ones, who tend to be more stable and pure RP.

Another huge weakness for slots is that it's never truly balanced. Sure, you can adjust armies to be the same, but that's not enough. People in Asia, for one, will have a hard time, being amidst MANY enemies, while someone in Australia is isolated and easily defends. Means the Asian one is high risk high reward, since he can easily get "gangbanged", but also has a lot more space to grow. Diminishing the risk, by adding a heat-ish system where the more people you border, the more powerful you are, increases the reward's effectiveness. In other words, custom scenarios are hardly balanced, while a claim/pick will act like a roleplay-filled, interesting and fast-paced dispute for lands.

Thing is, people do tend to become PE really early in those due to picking something that someone else already claimed, so I suggest you make claims completely void and have people pick what they want.

Just my opinion at least :)

Edit: Worth mentioning that the recent map by zt, Orbis Veteribus Notus, is a great pick/claim map for diplos, with one little issue, the city only distribution is still not a thing >.<' I'm ultra hyped for the day he'll edit that into the map.

Edited 9/1/2015 00:26:03
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 14:15:05


huzaifa
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i wanna join too!!
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 14:16:05


huzaifa
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i hope this isnt only for members
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 14:16:37


huzaifa
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i also hope this isnt a coin game
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/1/2015 14:32:55


Potatoe
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You can join Huzaifa! It's for anyone and everyone! :)
Diplomacy League! :D: 9/2/2015 12:51:29


huzaifa
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yay!
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