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Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 19:55:14


ChrisCMU 
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Mercer said this, so here is a new thread:

I don't want to hijack this thread. So please form a new thread. We could try your idea out, we can see how much support there is. Here are a few of the top requested features on Uservoice. Pick which one you want to see the most. If we have a committment of $5,000 in coins I can guarantee we will get that feature made within a month. Make a new thread with the feature and ask people to commit coins in the thread. (Donations of free coins we gave users are not allowed of course)

1) 3 v 3 Europe (no cards) Ladder
2) Peace Treaties
3) Able to see who is online
4) Add a "friends list" subset to the invite list
5) Overhall of Clan System
6) Multi-attack card
7) Deployment Limits: a Tactical Option (esp. for Multi-Attack Games)
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 19:57:08


Potatoe
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So... If we want the developments? We have to donate... Which I can agree.. As it a lot of work to put in a feature. Would totally donate.. But not rich.. Money is scarce for me :(
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 19:57:52


Benjamin628 
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New features are not worth 5000$. If he meant 5000 coins, that's totally different.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 19:58:03


ChrisCMU 
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So, if I am reading this correctly, if users donated 5k, then you'd hire a developer to implement X number of features (depends on difficulty I am sure)?

What if users who are developers are willing to donate their time? I've expressed that in the past, I know a few more on here as well. Some I am sure I would not be able to help with, but I am sure some I can.

That being said, I hope some people take your suggested route as well. They do not have to be mutually exclusive.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 20:00:00


Potatoe
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+1 Chris :)
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 20:00:29


ChrisCMU 
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I agree Ben, I don't think we'd find $5,000 in coins. No way we can pool 500,000 coins together...assuming you could get people to agree on a priority feature. It is hard to know how many coins are out there, since it is not shown on your public profile.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 20:03:47


Benjamin628 
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MotD, Beren, Kryzchu I think have all said they would develop for free.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 20:05:02


Hades
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$5000 is a little optimistic... I think people are much more likely to donate their time.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 20:17:50


ChrisCMU 
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The trouble is not all of those are equal in amount of work. I'm quite sure we could do a 3v3 ladder pretty easily with a group of us.

Something like Peace Treaties might be much harder. If Mercer could attach a solid estimate next to each item, then he might get some takers on donating.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 23:48:49


ChrisCMU 
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Bump, since someone started another thread. So much OT crap that pushes real threads down. Can we promote this discussion?
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 23:50:37


Min34 
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Fizzer has already explained the problem with people who are willing to donate their time in his AMA

Edited 8/5/2015 23:50:43
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 23:51:24


ChrisCMU 
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Where? I must have missed it. Or explain the problem so we know.
Donate for new developments?: 8/5/2015 23:56:04


Min34 
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If I remember correctly he said the problem was that players often think they want to do it for free or that they want to donate their time, but once they have started to work on it they realise they don`t accually wanted to do it and Fizzer ends up with some random parts, but not the full thing.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 02:10:00


knyte 
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^ and that's why open source projects always fail

(Typed from my tablet that runs on a variant of GNU/Linux)

Edit: released by Google from an open-soirce project, on a browser that Google updates based on the Chromium project.

Edited 8/6/2015 03:12:28
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 02:19:23


Thomas 633
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Ok, so you want 500,000 coins? No damn way. I payed this game already. And that's the problem. Most of the forum posters have already given this game money in some form.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 02:31:51


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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5000 is a lot for some things that we will end up getting anyways in the future based on new updates.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:02:33


knyte 
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500,000 coins. But still, $5k would easily cover early server costs if someone wants to make a WL clone...

Edited 8/6/2015 03:19:01
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:16:22


Жұқтыру
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No, no, no. What is everyone thinking?
If it's rushed, it's going to be crappy and precisely only what the uservoice feature is. Not to mention 5,000 USD is loads.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:20:37


ChrisCMU 
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Min, why should that matter. Either it works or not. If not he does not use it. How much time of his would be wasted?
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:23:39


knyte 
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Anyone know the estimated value of this site/WarZone, LLC? Just curious. Maybe the user community could buy out the company instead if it's not too expensive. $5k isn't that bad but paying small amounts repeatedly will probably not be as smart as making one big payment once.

Just a crazy, stupid idea.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:24:16

Scorched Earth 
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"$5000 is a little optimistic... I think people are much more likely to donate their time."

Not at all. Donations of time is far more optimistic. If I spend 100 hours developing something that's roughly worth $5,000 to me, as an individual. 100 players each tossing in $50 is the equivalent of them each giving 1% as much as I'd be giving if I gave 10 hours of my time.

Basically: Lots of people being semi-generous is far more probable than one person being super generous.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:32:08


knyte 
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^ that's also true. The people whose time isn't worth enough for $5k to be less expensive than donating their time might also not be the best developers.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 03:52:39


Des {TJC}
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Think about the amount of coins Chu has won in 5 back to back seasons. 5K USD, I'm pretty sure Chu has won at least 1,000 USD in coins. But then again, thats just a guess.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 04:04:12


Potatoe
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Des, Teach me your wonders <3
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 09:05:47


[Falcon] Ayush
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I caNnot play any game for what period I do not now
But fizzer u can take it from me
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 10:08:36


Pink 
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i suppose they are asking for Money because fizer actually wants to do ti himself, but he is likely to eb at the point at which he expects to be paid for it and i have no idea what the revenue of WL is, but it certainly doesnt go much beyond its running costs
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 12:24:52


Buns157 
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@Chris fizzer said it takes alot of his time to set someone up to help develop warlight. Which when they then bail, means fizzer wasted his time.
Donate for new developments?: 8/6/2015 14:05:47


ChrisCMU 
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I gotcha buns. I guess it depends on the amount of time it takes for him to get someone going. I also don't think all people that offer help should be treated the same. Some are more committed than others to this site I think. Perhaps he should have some sort of small test to gauge their knowledge as well.

I don't have a problem with the donate idea, I actually think it is great. My issue is just that I'd like realistic estimates for each item (if possible) since they are not all the same amount of work.
Donate for new developments?: 8/7/2015 02:35:14


knyte 
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Perhaps he should have some sort of small test to gauge their knowledge as well.


FizzBuzz? Lol.

Perhaps he can just make the APIs less restrictive (a la reddit). Just a one-time investment on his part.
Donate for new developments?: 8/7/2015 15:17:27

smileyleg 
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I think knyte's last suggestion of increasing the power of the APIs has the most potential.

I fully understand the logistics problems of having developers donate time.

Imagine an API that could, say once per turn be invoked to do things like:


    * Change ownership and armies of any territory
    * Apply diplomacy or income modifiers to players
    * Publish a message in public chat (great for diplos, etc.)
    * Send a private message to a player
    * Award cards to players
    * Eliminate a player or declare a winner


For obvious reason any such game would have to be a Practice game but it shouldn't take much imagination to think of some incredibly custom games and scenarios that would be possible.
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