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Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 18:13:25


ChrisCMU 
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rating is now sup 3. Keep it up guys!
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 18:29:59


Benjamin628 
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Keep it down guys*
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 18:47:55


Kain
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Same thing will happen to Fridge's europe too. but u already know.


RA, it was so pathetic


RA has been given "Trophy: Create a beautiful map". I propose to take it back from him as a punishment for thivery and absolute lack of any remorses.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 18:55:16


l4v.r0v 
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^ To be fair, RA did create Ursa:Luna and I believe a few other widely-used maps.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 18:58:44


LustyTrucker 10:4
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doesn't mean he's not a dick
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 20:12:48


ChrisCMU 
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It does mean he should not lose a trophy. He did in fact make a nice map (more than one) and that is not changed by being a hack on another map.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 20:17:40


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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... uhhh *starts new thread in a thread*

Subject:How to Review?
Forum:Help

Body:i'm confused. how do i give bad review?
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 20:34:11


l4v.r0v 
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^ You have to play a game on the map, and when it's finished the "Rate this Map" option pops up in the left vertical bar (right where you normally have "Deploy-Attack-Confirm"/"Modify Orders"/"Next Game"/etc. and then also have "Share on Facebook" once the game is over). Just go to any finished game in your history and check.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/22/2015 20:36:29


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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ahhh thank you

*End Thread*
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 01:08:30


Thomas 633
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Just make a singleplayer game with custom on that map, encircle the AI with 10000 stacks and he has 0, reduce base income to 0 and win. Then give the map a shitty review.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 02:11:08


l4v.r0v 
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Rating doesn't matter. Looks like Fizzer has personally deleted the reviews (or something else weird happened).

https://www.warlight.net/Map/19780-Europe-30

Back above 3.7.

Edited 7/23/2015 02:21:12
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 02:45:42


Lawlz
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Wow, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Fridge literally retired months ago, how the hell is Ra supposed to know he came back? Was he just supposed to sit there and wait for fridge to come back? It was an unfinished map, fridge should have been happy it got published.

Honestly, you act like wolves, waiting for any ounce of drama to pounce on.

Tl;dr Fridge is just salty he didn't get as much credit as he wanted. Boo fucking who, you should have published it.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 02:50:52


Benjamin628 
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I feel like knyte was on to something when he said or something else weird happened

I feel like RA either convinced a bunch of players to write good reviews/rate highly, or he hacked some players. I have no evidence, so this is not an accusation. Lawlz's comment is irrelevant to hacking, Lawlz always writes things that disagree with everyone else just to be shocking.

Anyway, I want everyone that Rated this map a 1 to check their rating of this map (Mine is Still 1).

Edited 7/23/2015 02:51:39
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 02:54:59


Lawlz
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Lawlz's comment is irrelevant to hacking, Lawlz always writes things that disagree with everyone else just to be shocking.
Except when I don't. Different opinion≠Intentional bait
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 02:58:09


l4v.r0v 
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If RA wanted to make a good Europe map, he could've made it from scratch.

The map was Fridge's artwork. Fridge had a right to determine how it could be used- he put time and effort (and not insignificant amounts, by the look of things) into it.

Just because Fridge might not have published it himself doesn't give RA the right to steal his work, use it without his permission, and claim it as his own (reducing Fridge's credit to just "idea"). It also doesn't give him the right to refuse to credit Fridge or to behave belligerently when called out for it.

It's horrible for mapmakers to no longer feel secure about their creations. People who make things have a right to control how they are used- even Fizzer seems to agree with that.

Shame on you for standing up for RA and acting like Fridge had no rights to something he made.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 03:04:22


Benjamin628 
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If RA wanted to make a good Europe map, he could've made it from scratch.

He already did. https://www.warlight.net/Map/14319-Europe-20
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 03:04:55


Lawlz
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Oh yes, I forgot what a completely original idea Europe is!

Absolute trash, Fridge didn't publish anything, and decided to retire without publishing. That means it was insignificant enough to him that there should be no need to be salty. He's more likely angry about the fact that Ra gave him the middle finger and reduced credit. In fact, almost all the people in this thread seem more outraged than fridge actually was. Europe is like "baby's first map". This isn't and shouldn't even be a significant topic.
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 03:09:15


Benjamin628 
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Europe is like "baby's first map".

I challange you, find me a map that is better than this:

https://www.warlight.net/Map/73-Europe

Edited 7/23/2015 03:09:24
Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 03:12:47


Lawlz
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Ra has stolen my Strategic Europe Map (Europe 3.0): 7/23/2015 03:17:07


l4v.r0v 
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Europe as an idea? Yes, it's a common map. But that's like saying "paintings of a woman are like... baby's first portrait" to defend someone copying and stealing the Mona Lisa and claiming it's their own. Not to say that Fridge's map was a legendary Europe map, but it was a specific and good implementation of the Europe idea, and while he can't claim the right to the entire idea, he does have a right to his own implementation of it.

It's just like how Sergey Brin and Larry Page don't have a claim to the idea of search engines (for every Google (the Europe map Ben linked), there's a Bing (Europe 3.0) and an AltaVista (most Europe maps)) but have the right to their own specific code.

To use a more personal "I care about intellectual property because otherwise my field wouldn't really exist" example, there's a few of Python/Ruby/Java/C++ files on my computer that I made (mostly) but never completed and don't plan to release. While the world may, in some way, shape, or form, benefit from my particular implementation of 3D 2048 (kind of like "baby's first Python project"), that doesn't give someone else the right to steal, copy, and release it as their own.

@Ben: you know what I meant... >_> If he wanted to make another Europe map, he should've made it from scratch too.

Edited 7/23/2015 03:17:53
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