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Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 17:51:20

MrHymen
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In another thread I ended up posting this:

So you paid once and didn't again? Do you have to pay a Subscription? Were you forced to pay for membership? No? Then it's a free game.

If I remember rightly you stop getting ads as a member. As such I expect that the adverts I receive have paid for more than your membership did. Just sayin'
(And yes, I do tend to click ads.)



Am I legit in saying this? I was hoping that someone would pop up on the other thread and provide evidence either way.

Fizzer once said that there are "Hundreds of thousands of players"... If every single person paid for a membership and got rid of their adverts would the game still be able to support itself after that money was used? Sure it could amount to millions but that would be the end of any future profits unless we had a player base boom.

Interested in everyone's thoughts on this. Appreciated if someone could provide any numbers.

Thanks in advance,

MrCherry.

Edited 6/25/2015 17:57:33
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 17:56:47

DanWL 
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Could you link the other thread?
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:01:26

MrHymen
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https://www.warlight.net/Forum/96534-last-seen-15-mins- <-- Where i said my thing


https://www.warlight.net/Forum/83857-weekly-coin-prizes <-- Where Fizzer said "Hundreds of thousands of people" just so it's there.
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:04:03


Belgian Gentleman 
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Fizzer doesn't really get rich of Warlight. You would think otherways but... in reality he has his own difficulties.

Being totaly depended on Warlight makes Fizzer lifestyle unsure and too risky. Don't forget that membership really is cheap and you can get free coins when at a decent level.

Fizzer is not like those greedy business marketeers. He wants 'as the slogan says' that Warlight stays as a free,online Risk game, which we pretty much thank him for this purpose.
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:15:18

MrHymen
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Fizzer is not like those greedy business marketeers. He wants 'as the slogan says' that Warlight stays as a free,online Risk game, which we pretty much thank him for this purpose.


Yeah I get that, as much as I dispute Fizz at times I know he's a decent guy.
I do understand he doesn't make a fortune and this post isn't against him in any way. If anything I'm trying to find out numbers to help discover new ways of marketing Warlight and to help support the future costs of Warlight.


Basically my issue is that recently I've started to see members slam non-members just because they paid for a cheap membership. They seem to think that it makes them better than the rest (other than the fact they get a few little extras of course)

I don't like the fact that Fizzer has ignored my requests for evidence of what he has said. It has made me lose a bit of trust in what Fizzer has said hence why I've come to the community to see if anyone has any actual numbers or guesstimates.

Edited 6/25/2015 18:23:06
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:21:29


TBest 
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Purly based on http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/warlight.net/ , a site I found by googeling.


Estimated Worth:
$ 194,168

Potential revenue (of course servers is some thousand $ a month. So a lot is used to cover only expenses.)

$ 388 / day

$ 11,640 / month

$ 139,680 / year

25,912 visits / day
129,444 pageviews / day

777,360 visits / month
3,883,320 pageviews / month

More info is on the link I gave

Edited 6/25/2015 18:27:31
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:21:58


Eklipse
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Basically my issue is that recently I've started to see members slam non-members just because they paid for a cheap membership.

This is more of an internet thing than a Warlight thing. Those who pay for stuff with online games tend to look down on those who don't. However, I have only rarely seen Warlight members lord their membership over others. Most seem to be pretty cool about it.

I don't like the fact that Fizzer has ignored my requests for evidence of what he has said.

Fizzer usually doesn't respond when summoned. I think it might not be him ignoring you as much as him almost never checking the forums.
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:30:19

MrHymen
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Fizzer usually doesn't respond when summoned. I think it might not be him ignoring you as much as him almost never checking the forums.


I also sent him an E-mail which got ignored lol. Not sure if he just missed it but I'd be surprised if a guy like Fizz missed an E-mail

This is more of an internet thing than a Warlight thing.


Indeed it is an internet thing. I've played a few "Free-to-play" MMOs where the mentality is if you don't spend cash then you're scum. Luckily this game isn't like that as we do somewhat have a decent player base.

TBest: Thanks for the numbers. Apparently my Google searches failed me.
It does show that MAYBE there are less active players than Fizzer is thinking right now, but I'd love to see the numbers rise. Fizzer does deserve it.

(I am going by active members who play on a regular basis rather than the odd person coming on once every week or so as we actives put a lot more strain on the servers... if you get my drift.)

Edited 6/25/2015 18:34:18
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:35:30


TBest 
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MrCherry, it is common for websites to count activity based on monthly visits. So if someone visits only once a month they are active. According to this, WL does indeed have "Hundreds of thousands of players".
Adverts VS Membership: 6/25/2015 18:43:36

MrHymen
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But are they active and unique players or accounts? As if it includes alts (I'm sure a lot of people use other browsers/devices for their alts which probably get added in to those numbers) then the numbers are rather off and it would no longer be unique players but accounts.

I do think a lot of Fizzers server problems would be sorted by limiting the amount of alts to 1. I personally don't agree with them at all.

I do understand that it's hard to track what's an alt and what isn't other than IPs which can easily be proxy/changed but other places have done it. I'm sure Fizzer could find a way.

I'm trying to think of ways to help Fizzer save money and make more cash in the long run. This seems to be a struggle for him and as a community I do believe we should brainstorm and try and come up with ideas and pitch them.
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