How about purchasing a membership

Wow.. just wow....
Fix your broken ass game and then try and advertise your useless memberships.

Wow.. just wow....
Fix your broken ass game and then try and advertise your useless memberships.

Wow.. Just wow....
Fix your broken ass attitude and then try to leave a comment.

Don't be a bitch, cherry. You still use their game and if you don't like it, you can leave. Nobody will miss you or that attitude youre bringing towards a barely successful indie game and its 2 developers.

I don't think the game is broken at all, in fact I appreciate it a lot.

But he does bring up a valid point about the membership. They are pretty much useless right now unless you are a new player and don't want to level up before joining the ladders. This has been talked about a lot, but since there are no member only perks anymore...it is completely useless for those who are already leveled up. I don't mind supporting the game with my $30, but Mercer suggesting a membership to someone who is level 55 is pretty short sighted. Offer some member only perks if you want people to buy them.

I agree with the last two comments. I am not in any way trying to discredit the immense amount of work put in by the WL development team (AKA Fizzer).

Actually, for me, the API alone would justify a membership. I'm very close to the edge since that would solve a lot of problems by allowing me to develop and test a third party extension. The issue is that I could also do that without the API, just in a jankier way.

It would be cool if WL were more friendly to independent developers.

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It isn't the system's fault your clan was "hijacked" it is the fault of the managers/owner you are told quite explicitly to only give rights to those you 100% trust, it's clearly a user error.

I'm not blaming the system for the hijacking.

I've got an issue that said disclaimer needs to exist and that it forces managers into very interesting positions. Most other games with Clan systems have implemented hierarchical management.

Don't be a bitch, cherry. You still use their game and if you don't like it, you can leave. Nobody will miss you or that attitude youre bringing towards a barely successful indie game and its 2 developers.

Hence why I give my 100% honest opinion. Memberships are useless right now and advertising them in an off-topic way in the middle of the forums is unacceptable from a developer (Or "Warlight Experience Officer") and will turn people away because all they will see is "$$$$$" coming from the creator side rather than seeing them do their job.

Edited 5/15/2015 15:20:10

-However we have limited time to develop all the features.

-We have a backlog of a year's worth of features.

-The priority right now is on new features that will increase revenue so that we can hire a second developer.

-With a second developer we could focus on more issues like this.

learn2read you selfish ass

learn2read you selfish ass

The game has been around long enough for things such as a Good Second Developer to be sourced, for free if they actually looked hard enough.

I know what coding entails, I know how hard and stressful it can be which is why I don't give Fizzer or Mercer any sympathy. A lot of the problems they have with time come down to their time-management being dreadful.

Anyway, what's got you all hot and bothered? You're making this seem like I'm personally offending you. Do you need a hug?

It would be cool if WL were more friendly to independent developers.

This is a good point. I would love to do some CLOT's, and I want to do stuff with the clan ranking and many other ideas I have. The CLOT framework is VERY bare bones though. I wish it had more 'out of the box' like a rating system and not just a total wins setup. I don't have the time to figure that out, even though I am sure I could. I'm too busy running clan league, other custom leagues, trying to improve the forums, teaching noobs off and on, making suggestions to improve the game, making maps, etc.

People are here to help but it can be difficult for some of us developers to actually make something for WL staff to evaluate.

I know how hard and stressful it can be which is why I don't give Fizzer or Mercer any sympathy

Then offer to do it for them and don't act like a cunt.

A lot of the problems they have with time come down to their time-management being dreadful.

Oh yeah, we all know how much free time fizzer has. I see him every day at the beach counting the fat stacks of cash he makes off suckers clicking the ads on the side of the page.

Oh yeah, we all know how much free time fizzer has. I see him every day at the beach counting the fat stacks of cash he makes off suckers clicking the ads on the side of the page.

I see him making youtube videos and unnecessary cards rather than sorting out the clan and friend systems for example.

I am reporting you though Lawlz for the word "Cunt". Terms of service etc etc.

Lol, okay kid. Report me, it's just an excuse so you don't have to argue.

And those "unnecessary cards"? The bomb card is coin games only, which gives people an excuse to purchase coins and help the developers.

Oh and thanks for delaying progress on the next update with a petty report.

Lawlz... The only person arguing is you..

Oh if you want me to delay progress on WL then i could spam Fizzer with requests for that "Hundreds of thousands of players" comment he made but refuses to provide evidence for.

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Avoiding the points provided before you, I rest my case.

Avoiding the points provided before you, I rest my case.

Which are?... Your point about bombs being in coin games only. New players won't buy coins to play games for a card we all know is coming to normal games. It only benefits those who are already buying coins (Which is a good thing for beta testing but that's about it).

That seems to be the only point you made.

If this game seems like such a disappointment to you then why do you continue to play it?

1. Lawlz, stop cussing. I cuss less than that.
2. Atari was friendly to third-party dev's... and look what happened there.
3. How long would it take to code in a button that means that a clan's founder can't be booted from their own clan?

> 2. Atari was friendly to third-party dev's... and look what happened there.

Atari's not the only company to be friendly to third-party devs. Look at what happened to Google and Microsoft when they made their APIs public. Coinbase, Venmo, IBM- tons of companies do it.

Hell, Apple's biggest advantage in the mobile market is the proliferation of apps- and that didn't happen because Apple made every single app themselves.


> 3. How long would it take to code in a button that means that a clan's founder can't be booted from their own clan?

Depends on how well-structured the existing codebase is. A lot of simple tasks become extremely complicated because of the existing structure they have to work with- try doing the simplest thing with Google's Python API client library, for example, and you'll see why.

I really still don't understand why so many people in a clan have to have manager rights. I also don't understand how you guys keep allowing these alts to get up so far in your clan.

In Apex, we must unanimously vote on new members. 1 no vote and that person is not recruited. Everyone in Apex has manager rights, and none of us have abused them. Hell I don't think anyone but Frank and I have even used these manager rights. Maybe Widzisz did too. We're very careful not to recruit people we don't trust. I don't think any of the high competitive clans are ever going to have this problem that most clans are having. We have high expectations of the people we recruit. I know WG's process of recruiting people can involve a lot of tryouts and majority vote from the clan. Master and Lynx are a lot the same way. I don't know GG's process, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot of communication involved.

Communication is how you run organizations and how you avoid bad outcomes like this. Everytime this has happened we've critiqued the people and told them that the reason they got hijacked was due to poor management/poor decisions, and yet everytime it's deflected with: This can happen to anyone.

No, it can't happen to anyone. The first step to solving a problem is to identify there is a problem. Solve your problems so that this doesn't happen again.