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World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/3/2011 20:42:04

ricardi
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This is a world map project based on the game Victoria. There is a Excel spreadsheet with all the territories with a ID-number so it is possible that others can draw territories independently and merge into a final map(the user Knoebber and I tested this yesterday)

This is the result after one day:

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/vicktoriawarlightmap.png/

I made some simple suggestions of regions and how to connect territories by sea, should there be more/less connections? The original game has different scenarios from 1836 to 1920, so some of the territories belong to other countries/borders will look different than now.(esp. African countries)

We hope others are interested to get involved and get suggestions.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/4/2011 16:26:29


Matma Rex 
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Yoo realize it is possible to vectorize the full-res image and have the SVG ready in a few minutes work? (Well, maybe an hour or two if you want it to look a bit better). It will probably not look as good as hand-traced one, but it'll be ready much quicker.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/4/2011 16:27:56


Matma Rex 
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Also, responding to your question in the other thread:

> How do I for instance make Bahamas with many islands as 1 territory?

You draw each bit separately and then press (in Inkscape) Ctrl + + to join them (or Path -> Union, I think).
World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/4/2011 17:49:28


Matma Rex 
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Here's a SVG for you: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10983006/vicky.svg


This is generated from the map without territories I found on the wiki you linked using potrace (with inversion and black threshold=0.8). Then I added IDs suitable for Warlight with a little script of my own. You should be able to upload this to WL and start adding names, connections and stuff (once you upscale it).


Bear in mind that I did not at all check if it matches the original map. Some territories might be missing, split, or very misshaped - you'd have to fix them by hand.

If that SVG causes any problem with WL, try this one: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10983006/WorldMap_LowRes.svg - it doesn't, however, have territory IDs set.


Good luck :D
World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/5/2011 02:07:04


Knoebber 
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Whoah that helps alot.... But warlight doesn't seem to take the one with id's it gives completeHandler 70::warlight.shared.messages.ServerException Error (0): WarLight Server returned ServerError
at mapDesign\MapDesignRoot_.as:HandleStoreVisionError()
at mapDesign\designer\Controls_.as:()
at warlight\shared\messages\Messages.as:UploadVisionReply()
at warlight\shared\messages\Messages.as:OnReply()
at warlight\shared\messages\MessagePump.as:OnReceiveMessage()
at mobileShared\Messaging.as:completeHandler()
at mobileShared\HttpRequest.as:completeHandler()

Any ideas on how to make that one work? or do we need to enter id's by hand?
World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/10/2011 08:14:40

ricardi
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I have worked with this map this weekend and it is on testmode and working, 2194 territories and 98 bonuses. Connecting all the territories was very boring! Unfortunately Europe is still crowded even if I removed a few provinces. Is there a way to shrink the size of the numbers?

One thing I haven't done is naming all the territories, I don't think I'll bother with it, it will take to much time. I will check the connections more thoroughly before making it public.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 1/10/2011 17:02:26


Matma Rex 
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> Is there a way to shrink the size of the numbers?

The bigger the original SVG is, the smaller the numbers will be. I think there's a hard limit though, it's probably somewhere in Help.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/1/2011 19:01:58

CCC Spartan C26
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Hey I checked out your world map and it looks sick, any idea when youll have it up and running for the public?
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/3/2011 15:58:30


NecessaryEagle 
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yeah, invite me to the test match!!!
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/6/2011 22:36:19


The Dark Prince
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Please invite me to your test match.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/13/2011 10:17:19

Death from Above
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I'd love to go in on a test match as well! But methinks you have plenty of takers already :)
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/19/2011 00:47:34

ricardi
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Hi, I deleted the map, I got some negative feedback from the admin/founder of this site. Now Warlight is going to charge 30$ for playing. I think Warlight has to hire someone to make new maps now...
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/19/2011 00:57:21


Perrin3088 
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30$'s is not alot for a good game.

and consider, the owner has spent many thousands on this game thus far, and if every current player paid 30$, he'd prolly break even, plus every bit of programming is done by him

300$+ a month, just for the server alone makes 9600$ he's paid out of pocket for this game, and that's not his only expense...

read comments on the blog and on several of the threads lately...
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/19/2011 01:22:35

ricardi
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I fully understand that there is costs and that it somehow has to be paid. My issue is that members have also spend hours making different maps for free. Most of the maps are amateurish have a lot of errors but are still an asset for Warlight. If Warlight is going to charge money, I think the members should remove their maps, and let Warlight LLC be responsible for new professionally made maps.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/19/2011 04:53:42


Perrin3088 
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wow, that's selfish..
you make a map because you want to play on it.. before as well as now, and when you upload that map to warlight, you are giving that map to randy *afaik*, and as i said, read the threads, he possibly will end up rewarding people that make maps, this is all new to him, as well as us... this has been a hobby for all of us.. you've spent many hours working on this map that you wanted to play, obviously.. Fizzer has spent considerably more hours, and his own hard earned cash, to *let you play* he's asking for a pittance after years of dedicated players *asking!* him to let them pay him for his services to let you play you're game.
now admittedly you don't seem to play a whole lot, according to your record, *and seriously, 6 games 3 boots???* so perhaps this game isn't for you in the first place.. in which case I'm not sure why you'd dedicate the time to making a map for it..

either way, I've lost my train of thought.. so /rant off, and perhaps I'll come back at a later time when i can reiterate more clearly, lol
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/19/2011 11:26:20


Matma Rex 
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Oh you bastard, Ive been waiting for it.

Fuck you, I'll make it myself. Someday.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/20/2011 20:44:07


I <3 GawithApricot
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OMG! You could at least give project to somebody... not delete it...
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 01:17:31


Metaltubbie 
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I totally understand ricardi!

Why should he continue making or give away his map?
He wanted to make it; and if he now completes it he can't even test it like it was designed for because of the new restrictions.

Why making a map for Warlight when the map maker can't play his own map in the settings that would be the best!?
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 01:35:58

The Impaller 
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I think people need to relax a bit. Randy seems pretty reasonable, it's entirely possible he will come up with an incentive or bonus for mapmakers. The whole pay thing is only one day in. Let's breathe easy and see what comes of it.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 03:18:01

The Impaller 
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Here's a potential suggestion. Players who make a map are allowed to design games with no limitations on players, settings, etc. on the map that they created, regardless of member status. That would provide incentive for people to continue producing maps, even if they aren't a member, and would generate more maps overall for Warlight, as I can see a lot of non-members designing a map to play on to allow them to still use their preferred settings, rather than forking out the $30 subscription.

I realize that there may not be any kind of infrastructure in place to set up these kinds of part-by-part tinkering of who is allowed to do what, but this could be a start to a system where people can pay small fees to be allowed to access certain member functions rather than pay one entire cost for all member functions.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 06:35:24

Fizzer 
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Metaltubbie:

> Why making a map for Warlight when the map maker can't play his own map in the settings that would be the best?

I hear your feedback. I'm going to modify it so map creators can invite as many players as they'd like to games they create with their own map.

I appreciate everything the map creators have done - this is certainly not the only thing I plan on doing; this is just a quick fix to alleviate your immediate concern about developing big maps.

Hopefully this will go live within the next 24 hours. This will be part of 1.00.2, which is a small release. Thanks to Impaller for coming up with the idea.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 06:41:58


Perrin3088 
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Fizzer must be feeling overworked these past couple of days, and I'm sure it's not going to be alleviated anytime in the foreseeable future..
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 08:16:45


Metaltubbie 
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Fizzer: "invite as many players..."

What about the luck factor?
And than the map-maker must create his game everytime troublesome without templates?
Not really brighter conditions...
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 19:53:58


Metaltubbie 
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Okay, to show that i can more than just to grump here is a suggestion:

Warlight starts on a monday with a thread where anyone can nominate a map-maker with his map(s). This thread is open for 7 days. After that week all members of Warlight can vote (again 7 days) for one of the map-maker that was nominated and that one gets a free membership.

So you have an inducement for everyone to make great new maps and an additional tension every two weeks.
Because only members can vote for this prize for map-makers there is no risk of fake-accounts or something like that.

Well, that's my idea - what do you think?
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 21:19:37

Fizzer 
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Yeah, I like that idea a lot. The voting part is necessary - if you just gave out free memberships for making a map, then anyone could upload a dummy map without putting any effort into it as an exploit.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/21/2011 21:46:20


Perrin3088 
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sounds like a plan, i would limit it to one a month personally, purely to allow a fuller part of the community to vote on it, but it really makes little difference.

the problem i see with most giveaways is that once a person has a lifetime membership you've lost all possibility of income from them save for them inviting more people.. if/when we implemented a monthly or quarterly payment system, you could give away a month, a quarter, a year for maps possibly, and even for other things, to offer a chance to prove to them that the game is worth investing in to it's fullest.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/28/2011 19:37:58


Diabolicus 
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*"Then I added IDs suitable for Warlight with a little script of my own."*

How did you do that, MatmaRex?
Assigning Territory_xxx IDs manually is a PITA on large maps ...
World Map appr 2000 territories: 2/28/2011 20:52:38


Matma Rex 
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It was custom-made, I think that I posted it somewhere.

Although, if you created the map in Inkscape, you can open the .svg file in Notepad and just run find&replace for
|> id="path
and replace to
|> id="Territory_
(or similar) since it automatically assigns unique IDs to everything.

You can even just open the file in Inkscape and resave it.
World Map appr 2000 territories: 3/14/2011 01:17:15


Metaltubbie 
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**Metaltubbie:**
*"...suggestion: "Warlight starts (...) with a thread where anyone can nominate a map-maker with his map(s). (...) After that week all members of Warlight can vote (...) for one of the map-maker that was nominated and that one gets a free membership.*

**Fizzer:**
*"I like that idea a lot."*

well...
I and at least 5 finished maps are waiting...
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