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Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 18:53:37


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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Hello,

Currently, I am working on a detailed map which will illustrate the Eastern Theater of war during World War Two. I am still in the early stages of development, but I thought that sharing the concept to garner suggestions would be beneficial in the long run.


Progess so far: https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=42617
(Finishing Germany then starting work on the Soviet Union.)

I would like to note that the majority of the bonuses currently included will not be in the final version. The reason I have placed them in is to help me stay organized later on. However, the concept of industry / military ports / military academies will stay well into the final version.

Kind regards,

Rommel



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If anyone wants to help out I do need assistance researching major research centers (military focused) and officer/military academies for each of the countries present. (IE. Soviet Union, German Reich, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Bulgaria, and to a lesser extent Croatia.)

Edited 7/2/2015 12:29:18
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 18:56:55


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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It's looking promising so far.

And this is the third recent WW2 map, that's interesting.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 19:21:57


҈ TeeMee123 ҈
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yeah this looks like the beggining of a great map
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 19:25:28

Mugzybrown
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I would consider looking into river crossings, etc and make territories of the bridges to create choke points on the map.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 22:00:01


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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Mugzybrown I was thinking the same and as you can see the Danube River that passes through Hungary I have certain places where the territory connects. This represents main railways that went over the major rivers. Bridges is all and good, but there are dozens of them and they do not transport nearly the amount of men and material that railways did during the war.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 22:39:25


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Oh, and you're using official names, good move.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 22:43:56


Smugleaf
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Looking nice so far. Looking forward to playing this
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 23:13:23


David
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Looks like a really good map!
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/15/2015 23:37:21


Deutschland
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Great map and idea! I like maps with pacific things like railroads,mountains,rivirs,estc
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 00:48:29


Жұқтыру
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Too early to tell anything, but I assume you're using German. Just don't forget the old Ostpreußen names (Köningsberg)
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 18:02:05

Mugzybrown
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It may look wonky, but I had considered a map that would have long rectangular territories running through the lands to signify rail travel vs land travel, so what would take 5 turns to traverse would only take 2.

Something like that could also be used with local deployment.

Set up bonuses for cities, connect cities with rail

Edited 4/16/2015 18:02:59
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 18:03:36


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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It has dawned on me that the Pinsk Marshes need to be represented somehow. What I was thinking was only mapping the Russian railroads that ran through them, however, this would translate weirdly onto the map. Maybe with an illustration of some sort to fill in the would-be empty spots. Ideally, this would create a choke-point where a rather large portion of the German-Russian border would be impassable, or difficult to traverse.

What do you folks think? Is there a good way to represent the swamps?



Mugzybrown, the map I am currently using for reference has every single rail line that existed in this era. Thus, for Germany 95% of the territory would be these railroad territories, ha. I enjoy the idea but am not so sure it will translate in Warlight very well.

Edited 4/16/2015 18:12:16
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 18:26:00

Mugzybrown
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Well the idea would be to connect some major cities, not replicate all of them :)
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 18:27:58


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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I'm not sure removing territories like that is a good idea, but maybe it makes a lot of sense with the map you're using, may we see it?
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 18:28:52


Darth Grover
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Beautiful job so far.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/16/2015 18:30:29


Жұқтыру
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I recommend just drawing in swamps as borders and making the whole place being very zigzag.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/18/2015 18:10:39


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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Seeing that I am 60% done with Romania (although additional research will be conducted to determine if any other special bonuses will be added to them) it is time to decide the next nation to tackle.

To put my thoughts in word, I was thinking about starting Germany or Bulgaria next and even though I am really looking forward to starting the Soviet Union the task is a little overwhelming and I feel it would be best saved for last.

Also, I would love to hear any thoughts on what I am doing well or not so well. Stylistically, naming conventions, etc.

Cheers
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/18/2015 19:13:52


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Edited 4/18/2015 19:14:06
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/18/2015 20:31:00


Жұқтыру
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Are you going to add any more boni? The industries and academies can only get you so far.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/18/2015 22:06:04


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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Of course, as I had mentioned in the orginal post the bonuses are not reflective of the final version. I will add traditional bonus types once I have filled the map. It will be done, but it will be the last thing I do.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/18/2015 23:01:22


Mudderducker 
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Good map idea! Looks promising indeed. Putting them into bonuses first would have been a whole lot easier, adding industry bonuses after that would have worked best.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 09:50:13


Martyrose
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You better change Aland to Åland, but despite that, the map looks good!
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 10:28:12

Elroi{IL}
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Looks great, you also thought about cities? I'm guessing it's more affects the war
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 12:45:09


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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Martyrose I'll fix that right away.

Elroi, what do you mean? I am including all major cities, but I do know some maps have major cities off to the side to fully flesh them out. I suppose that would be really cool for the battles/sieges that took place during the war. For example Stalingrad.

Since I am having trouble explaining this concept. The map A Tale of Four Cities by zxctycxz does this very well. The only concern I have is, is there enough room and will it work stylistically.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 16:08:02


Жұқтыру
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I personally detest the greatened borough idea. But if you are going to do it, do Smolensk, Moskau, Stalingrad and Kursk. 4 most important battles in Operation Barbossa.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 18:35:24


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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I've decided to add the flags of each nation on the map. However, I do know the historical German flag of the period is a touchy area. I would like to keep it for historical accuracy, but I am not so stubborn to ignored other's opinions.

Please, tell me what you think about adding in flags, especially Germany's.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 19:09:27


DesertFox
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well my friend, great work with the map.i wait to play it.since i am romanian , i need to tell you something about the map (especialy about the romanian land ) .The territory is well made, a lillte bit strange in west (Timisoara area ) .I've looked for names of the regions and i see that you have documented good, but still are some mistakes (if you want to make the names well.) here are some of them : Medjidia- Medgidia ; Geurgiu - Giurgiu ; Piteste ( lol, if you translate in english means hide ) - Pitesti; Trajan - Traian ; Jazzy ( i don't like the name )-Iasi ; Smala -Sinaia (near Targoviste if you don't find ) Carancebes - Caransebes . This is want i had to tell. If i will fing other mistakes i will tell you. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Romanian_Army_Flag_-_1940_used_model.svg/100px-Romanian_Army_Flag_-_1940_used_model.svg.png)--- an idea for the flag.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 19:17:19

Bolus
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In Hungary you used German region names instead of the Hungarian names: Steinamanger --> Szombathely
and a couple others i don't know the Hungarian versions of.

And some spelling mistakes too: Dedrecen --> Debrecen

Edited 4/19/2015 19:18:14
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 19:30:28


Жұқтыру
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I think you should keep the Nazi German flag. Many folk here are named Adolf Hitler; the hammer and sickle flag is banned in Hungary, probably the American flag is banned in the Levant. You'll end up offending somebody at some point, just go through with it for historical accuracy. Also, Blous, I think that was intentional. All Russian names and Estonian names are in German, too.
Map: Operation Barbarossa: 4/19/2015 22:45:15


Erwin Rommel, Generalfeldmarschall 
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Added some Soviet territories to show just how far the map will go. As of right now, it will go up and slightly past the Urals. However, there isn't much there besides industry, so once I map out those I'll basically just use the Siberian Rail line to reconnect the cluster back to Western Russia.
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