The fact of the matter is, the theory of evolution or global warming are unproven scientific myths dreamt up by men. We are God's creation, like the trees, the wildlife, the things that the creation created out of other creation is also God's creation such as laptops, houses, cars, and theories. The word of God is not creation.

The theory of evolution is what it says on the tin: a theory.

Thats the dumbest argument against evolution. Here is the definition of a scientifique theory, wich is different from other usage of the word "theory"

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.As with most (if not all) forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and aim for predictive power and explanatory capability." wikipedia

A scientific theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge there is. It explains facts. Evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution explains how evolution, along with natural selection, is responsable for the incredible biodiversity we have on earth.
The theory of evolution as it is might not be complete, it probably will be adjusted as science advances, but the core of the theory of evolution is backed up by an incredible amount of evidence, and is now as reliable as the "Theory of gravity" is.
Or do you think that the theory of gravity is "just a theory"?

edit: by the way, you make incredible claims about the truth, and yet you provide absolutely zero evidences for those claims. Am i supposed to believe you like a sheep?

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So......according to the Bible, the Leviathan is still around! watch your back!

Leviathan and Behemoth, in the Bible, were clearly single mythical monsters created by god when he created the earth, stop making a fool of yourself

I don't know why you feel the need to insult me over "science". As I said I'm trained as a computer scientist not as a geologist or stuff. If I remember correctly then you have a degree in materials science in "Arts et Métiers ParisTech". I guess (but may be wrong) that nobody in this thread has any direct qualification regarding the theory of evolution. All I can say as a computer scientist is that artificial intelligence is a joke compared to real intelligence so believing in evolution means you believe that out of nothing something came into being far more complex than any computer scientist could ever build. You told me earlier to visit a museum to get enlightened about how evolution is totally proven. In fact a couple weeks ago I visited a prehistoric museum and yes, the boards there said stuff about hundred of millions of years... so what? I have never really looked the definition of "science" up in a dictionary but I guess a board claiming stuff in a museum or a guy in a youtube video making fun about creationism dosen't qualifiy as science, at least it has nothing to do with my experience of getting in touch with real science.

As I said I really know very little about evolution but if I remember correctly then my early school books said stuff that mankind originated from monkeys. Later they said different stuff and nowadays probably again completely different stuff. However I really don't care at all about the foolish thoughts of the blinded mainstream society. Not seeing the finger of god in the creation is just completely outrageous, especially since nowadays we know far more about the complexity of life than before.

Since you quoted some bible verses, for example:
Will be destroyed by God at the eschaton (Isaiah 27.1 “In that day the LORD…will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea.”)
The bible likes using references to creatures metaphorically. It's not hard to see that especially the dragon is a metaphor of Satan. However you claimed that there was no reference of dinosaurs in the bible but especially the first link I gave you fits very well into the description of a dinosaur. And with your polemic that those creatures are still around nowadays I also said earlier in this thread that the book of Job is very old and maybe he also has never met dinosaurs himself but knew about them from the beforetime.

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If I remember correctly then you have a degree in materials science in "Arts et Métiers ParisTech"

It is actually a mechanical engineering school, but that's beside the point. No i am not an expert in evolutionary biology, but it is a very interesting subject, and i have read about it, i have watch a lot of documentaries and videos of evolutionary biologist. The reason why i argue fiercely against creationnism is because i am actually educated on the matter. I try to educate myself before i speak about something, that is why i also own a quran and a bible. I haven't read all of it, but i have it so i can check from the source when i have some doubt about an argument.
The thing is, i really care about the truth and how things works. I think that the truth can only be obtained through science. It is almost the definition of science. The pursuit of the truth about our universe is science's whole purpose.
So when religious people uses the bible/quran as a science book (wich is a minority among religious people, the majority of christians for example donc believe that the bible is supposed to be taken as a history or science book), to me it is like shiting on the work scientists have done over centuries.

believing in evolution means you believe that out of nothing something came into being far more complex than any computer scientist could ever build

If this is a subject that interest you, you really should look into it, because you seem to have a misconception about what the theory of evolution really is.
Believing in the theory of evolution doesn't mean that out of nothing, something came into being (ironically, this is the definition of creationism :), and if god created life, then who created god? )
The theory of evolution scientifically explains in details how life, from its most elementary form, has evolved during the course of billions of years, into the incredibly complex and diversified froms of life that we have today.
The theory of evolution doesn't explain how life came to be.
There is some interesting theories that atempt to explain how life came to be, in fact we are now capable of creating amino acid (the basis of DNA), in a lab, out of a solution of basic molecules believed to be present at the early stage of the beginning of life on earth. So no the origin of life has nothing to do with the theory of evolution, and science hasn't cracked yet the answer to that question.

I guess a board claiming stuff in a museum or a guy in a youtube video making fun about creationism dosen't qualifiy as science

no it doesn't qualify as science, as claims without evidence are not relevent (like god and creation). But in a museum, they can show you some evidence supporting the theory of evolution.
The theory of evolution has been around for about 150 years. At the time, even among scientists, the theory was very controverial, because there wasn't enough evidence to support it. In fact, Darwin didn't have everything right, he was proven wrong on some aspects of his theory. But for 150 years of intense scrutiny and atempt to dispove the theory, it still stands. As science advances, new evidence supporting the theory of evolution are discovered everyday.

When you think about it, it is easy to disprove the theory of evolution, you just need ONE piece of scientific evidence that is in contradiction with the theory.

I remember correctly then my early school books said stuff that mankind originated from monkeys

Actually we don't descend from monkeys, we share a common ancestor with the great apes (we are a great ape)

However I really don't care at all about the foolish thoughts of the blinded mainstream society

That's the thing, for a long time, the theory of evolution wasn't supported by the majority of scientists, but now that we know more about the complexity of life, the overwhelming majority of scientist supports it. And i am talking about the scientific community, not mainstream society. Because in mainstream society in america for example, the theory of evolution is denied by the majority of people. Mainstream society is still very relious.

Not seeing the finger of god in the creation is just completely outrageous, especially since nowadays we know far more about the complexity of life than before.

I am very much amazed at the complexity of life, and understanding how this complexity developped makes me even more amazed by the beauty of life.
Frankly, the creationnist answer to the origin of life is just so simple (not to mention there is no evidence for it, and loads of evidences contradicting it) and i don't find it one bit as inspiring as the scientific truth.

edit: as for the "insults", you probably should reread the first message you adressed me, wich i believe set the tone of this conversation

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If it takes millions of years for a species to change how come it takes a frog months and animals of the like?

if you are refering to the tadpole turning into a frog, i am afraid you don't have a clue about what evolution is about. tadpole turning into frog has nothing to do with evolution, just like a fetus turning into a baby has nothing to do with evolution.
I won't explain here to you what the theory of evolution is, because there are far better qualified people that have already done it. I can refer you some book or videos if you are interested.

edit: However there are some organism that doesn't need millions of years to evolve. The best example is the flue virus. Every year, the flue virus evolve, but the evolution of the flue virus (and other viruses), is not due to natural selection, in fact it is an artificial selection that comes from our antibiotic and vaccine. This is why it is recommended to only take antibiotic when it is necessary, because the more antibiotic we take, more likely the virus is going to develop a resilience to antibiotic

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Note: Computer viruses also evolve, the good ones, anyway.

"No, the origin of Judaism and Christianity is Islam, but the purity of those religions were tarnished by men." hehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehhehehehehhehehehehehehhehe

I did not know that imitation can be the source

i suppose he meant "islam" as in "submission to the will of god" is the origin of the monotheistic religions

Norman you gotta see this video, i think that since you are a computer science guy, it might interest you. You probably won't like the message but it doesn't make it less interesting (personnaly, it blew my mind).

This video is a universe - by DarkMatter2525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDdiCYTK160

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