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Next Project= Syria: 3/31/2015 04:42:55


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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I don't think this needs any other explanation... The link is below:

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=41944

Edited 4/1/2015 04:47:24
Next Project= Syria: 3/31/2015 05:48:23


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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I am also starting to think Beziers are much easier to work with... and learning a few things from the methods of other mapmakers has shown me how to make a good, high quality map.
Next Project= Syria: 3/31/2015 12:33:43


[NL] Willem van Oranje
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This map is far more promising than your Lebanon map.
It is more neat and not sloppy.
Keep this method and your future maps will have a much higher rating.
;)
Next Project= Syria: 4/1/2015 01:26:29


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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Thank you. I decided that the freehand method was not for me, and that beziers would be better.
Next Project= Syria: 4/1/2015 01:37:58


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Good move.
Next Project= Syria: 4/7/2015 21:33:45


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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When working on my map, I noticed that many of the cities, towns, and districts, have two, or maybe even three different names. Some territories are clear and obvious to me as to what their names should be- for example, Aleppo could be either Aleppo or Halab, but most of the world recognizes the city's name to be Aleppo. An example of of a city with three names would be Kobani- which is ether Kobani, Kobane, or Mamayt. I obviously would not call the city Mamayt, as that is clearly not what the world uses for its name, but the media uses Kobani or Kobane interchangeably. In fact, almost all cities in Syria are like this. Dara and Daraa, Damascus and Dimashq, the list goes on. I think that what I will do is to take the extra names and put them to the territories for which I am at a loss to name. However, sometimes I might ask a question about what the proper name of a city is. In fact I have a question now:

Should I name the territory Kobani or Kobane? or perhaps even Mamayt? Since the city was pretty significant in the news recently, I want to get it right.
Next Project= Syria: 4/7/2015 21:47:06


Martyrose
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Dimashq and Damascus are pretty much the same bonus, you only need to take 4 countries for a 6 army income, that's not balanced. I would delete the bonus of Damascus of make those bonusses less worth, 3 army's per turn for 4 countries would be the max, imo.

Other then that, good map!

Edited 4/7/2015 21:47:35
Next Project= Syria: 4/7/2015 22:04:29


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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I've been trying to think about what to do about damascus and dimashq. I am considering letting the city itself stand alone with one, reducing the damascus bonus from 3 to 2 in the process, and then dimanshq would be reduced to one. That is four total. since dimashq is not part of the surrounding megabounus, it would make the map much more balanced.

The reason why it is like how it is is because dimashq is a region just like Hims or Idilib would be, so so I want to preserve that regionality...

EDIT: I have proceeded with what I have just considered. The map is now more balanced.

Edited 4/7/2015 22:07:37
Next Project= Syria: 4/10/2015 23:09:57


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Last territory finished! See what you think. I will need to apply bonuses and name all of the territories before testing, but the hardest part is over!
Next Project= Syria: 4/11/2015 02:34:05


Жұқтыру
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Be sure to call it Syria 2011. Nowadays, the Syrian Arab controls little compared to a few years ago.
Next Project= Syria: 4/11/2015 23:10:04


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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I think that whoever takes over Syria, America will still recognize it as Syria.
Next Project= Syria: 4/14/2015 01:21:57


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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I think that I will also set the cities to zero, so that it is an option to make the map a "city game" if they want to. I will probably make that a standard among my future maps.
Next Project= Syria: 4/14/2015 03:02:07


Жұқтыру
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I think that whoever takes over Syria, America will still recognize it as Syria.


So? It's more important to draw maps as they are rather than how we want them to be. Renaming it to Syria 2011 is sure not to offend anybody. And if the conflict resolves to the original borders, you can name it to Syria 201X.
Next Project= Syria: 4/15/2015 01:17:31


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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In all honesty, I am going to just call it "Syria" or "Modern Syria", and leave at that. Beyond the major governates, the map is based off of local cities and physical features. The territories are not subdivided based off of the local districts. If the major governates do change after the war, I will adjust the map accordingly.
Next Project= Syria: 4/15/2015 01:21:45


Жұқтыру
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I really think the best way, to avoid being criticised by others (not just me, the whole Levant and various terrorist forces in Syria back me up on this), that you call this Syria 2011, where we all agree that it was one country. It's not that clunky either, to put the 2011 after Syria.
Next Project= Syria: 4/15/2015 01:29:14


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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Maybe you are right. However, you could say that for even 2011 or earlier. There is no safe way to name any part of this map. Almost all of the towns, distrits, and governates have two or even three names. No matter what I do, I probably will be criticized for using a wrong name for a territory or something like that. Take Kobani, for example. I am calling the bounus Mamayt (not quite the spelling), the city bonus Kobani, and the territory will probably be called Kobane. All of them refer to the same exact town. I am sure that with the civil war, this problem has become exacerbated, but it has always been an issue.

Edited 4/15/2015 01:29:47
Next Project= Syria: 4/15/2015 02:30:33


Жұқтыру
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Yeah, but this is just one solution to one problem.
Next Project= Syria: 4/15/2015 20:40:07


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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Hey man, In all honesty, I don't care too much about any criticism my map will receive about what I name the name of the map. The only people who do not recognize the current political boundaries are the members of ISIS. The last time I checked, there were not any radical militants playing warlight, and I honestly don't think anyone on warlight will listen if a radical militant criticizes my map. In any case, the only criticisms that I care to acknowledge are those that criticize the quality of the map, like the army balance, if the borders are supposed to be overlapped-adjacent, or missing/extra connections. If I was basing my map off specifically the governete and administrative districts alone of Syria, then I could see how naming the map "Syria 2011" would be justifiable. However, that is not the case. The only part of the map that is based off of political boundaries are the superbonuses- the major governate districts. The others are based off of local towns, cities, and physical terrain. In any case, simply calling it "Syria" will be vague enough where I don't think anyone will criticize it.
Next Project= Syria: 4/15/2015 21:07:36


҈ TeeMee123 ҈
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The only people who do not recognize the current political boundaries are the members of ISIS. The last time I checked, there were not any radical militants playing warlight

XD good point
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 00:53:49


Жұқтыру
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So? Doesn't matter who recognises it; it matters what it is.
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 20:21:54


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Well, it Is Syria. I have not based it off of any specific year, and I don't think every Map on warlight has a name like : "Syria: superbonuses based off of governate districts and all other parts off of local features". In addition I don't think anyone would disagree that my map is NOT Syria.

Edited 4/16/2015 20:23:32
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 20:36:04


Жұқтыру
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Well, obviously you're basing it from 2011 and before, and your map is technically what Syria was, not is.
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 20:54:56


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Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 21:11:44


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How about this:

-Its my map. I name my map what I want to name it, as long as no one else has named it that. If i had based my map on specifically the governate, district, and municipal boundaries which were in place in 2011, I would have named my map "Syria 2011". I did not. I am either calling it "Syria" or "Modern Syria".

-This is a map of Syria which, besides the major governamtes, which I guarantee you will not change unless ISIS completely takes over, is not based off of any formal map. Rather, it is based roughly off of a combination of city locations, physical features, and population densities. I do not want to even base my map off of specific district boundaries, as I feel it would produce disproportionate bonuses and make the map more "rough" looking.

- I don't really care if anyone criticizes the name of my map. I don't care too much about people who rate my map because of what I named it. All I care about is constructive map-making tips that will help make my current and future maps better, aesthetically and technically.

- And, in all honesty, if you are that concerned about the name of a map, then make your own map of Syria and call it "Syria 2011". I won't criticize what you name it, or in fact what anybody names any of their maps. Its their map. As long as the name has some resemblance and accuracy in relationship to the map (ie, calling a map of Syria "Iraq" would be just wrong), the name is fine by me.

Edited 4/16/2015 21:12:20
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 21:52:52


Жұқтыру
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Its my map. I name my map what I want to name it, as long as no one else has named it that. If i had based my map on specifically the governate, district, and municipal boundaries which were in place in 2011, I would have named my map "Syria 2011". I did not. I am either calling it "Syria" or "Modern Syria".


Really obvious, I'm not (can't) commanding you to do this, but suggesting. Also, I think the organisational districts have been the same officially since 2011.

This is a map of Syria which, besides the major governamtes, which I guarantee you will not change unless ISIS completely takes over, is not based off of any formal map. Rather, it is based roughly off of a combination of city locations, physical features, and population densities. I do not want to even base my map off of specific district boundaries, as I feel it would produce disproportionate bonuses and make the map more "rough" looking.


I don't know about districts, that's for you to decide, but ISIS has already affected the map of Syria quite a bit. Add in the various terrorists and Kurdistan and you have an even smaller Syrian Arab Republic.

I don't really care if anyone criticizes the name of my map.


You should, for optimal settings.

And, in all honesty, if you are that concerned about the name of a map, then make your own map of Syria and call it "Syria 2011". I won't criticize what you name it, or in fact what anybody names any of their maps. Its their map. As long as the name has some resemblance and accuracy in relationship to the map (ie, calling a map of Syria "Iraq" would be just wrong), the name is fine by me.


That's like saying I won't criticise you for having a poor map, it's their map. Fine isn't good enough, optimally accurate is good enough.
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 23:04:33


[FCC] Aura Guardian 
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Can we just let this be? I am tired of this. I think we have made our points clear.
Next Project= Syria: 4/16/2015 23:58:40


Жұқтыру
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Fine, you don't look like you're going to change your map's name anyway.
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