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A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/24/2023 06:58:13

Mark
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I assume the overall strategy for HEH is the same as EH but there are a few wrinkles:
1. The German market is not so good. Mostly items and tin. I can't make as much money with items (epic), like most players, so I think I'll take the market in Britain before I head to Turkey.
2. A big roadblock (army camp) on Sardinia so go south from the Riviera thru Corsica instead of east from Spain in heading to Italy & Greece. This way you can save the 2 army camps on Corsica until getting the 50% cache bonus tech.
3. Another big roadblock in Italy after leaving Sicily so I detoured north from Sicily thru the Aeolian Islands to Capaccio and drove down the peninsula before jumping the Adriatic to Greece. Yes, it was a merc camp but at 1.1b with no JS, going around it seemed wiser. Now, at least when I grab it, I will get the JS bonus.

A detailed map and/or a Napkin-like path for HEH would be greatly appreciated. The EH map is helpful but there are enough differences with HEH to make following the EH path somewhat problematic.

Edited 11/24/2023 07:20:11
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/24/2023 07:33:58


JK_3 
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HEH is one of the few maps without unfogged map yet unfortunately (as per https://www.warzone.com/Forum/677028-superfog-screenshots?Offset=140#PostTbl_1361121)

The biggest problem I seen on HEH is the tech tree:
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/24/2023 07:46:33

Mark
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Agreed. I'm spending a lot more time crafting items for techs than I did on EH. It seems like you need advanced items much sooner in the tree.
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/24/2023 07:58:08

pirtuzogno
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A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/29/2023 04:10:03

Mark
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JK, At 6 days in, I finally have all the markets and hospitals. Money is tight, even with legendary AV. Getting all hospitals to level 3 is hard. Thank God for legendary TS. Just hit that 1.2T stack and, instead of hitting Danilov with the profits, I'm going to wait 16 hours to use TS on it, too.

I've spent days smelting and crafting (twine & welding rods) to get the merc discount and hospital upgrade discount techs. Another 1-2 days are still needed to get the 50% cache bonus and hospital save techs and, finally, the end will be in sight.

Now, the question. With my AP bonus, I'll be getting over 4000 AP. I still need to spend 10k AP in phase 3 to unlock phase 4. I think it may be best to spend AP to reduce tech, knowing that I'll be playing this level again. On the other hand, maxing out AP to 25% (currently at 17%) in phase 2 also has an appeal. Which do you recommend?

Edited 11/29/2023 04:12:06
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/29/2023 08:20:52


JK_3 
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knowing that I'll be playing this level again

given how much crafting is required on HEH (thus making it a painful level), you might be able to just not play it?

if you can do 3 smaller 1500 AP levels in the same time as it takes you to do HEH, that would be a better option imo.


RE Techs vs AP:
Go AP, AP is something you always need, while techs are only a problem on a few levels (all except EH can be skipped with Skip Level advancement)
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/29/2023 08:26:19

otto 
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Even with insane AV artifact and maxed alloy sell values and maxed merc discount, HEH does not give me enough money to buy all mercs.
Legendary TS is amazing on this map, but it means slow progress due to cooldown.


I skip HEH and play rather 3x HRise in that time instead (and for even bigger AP).
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/29/2023 08:37:11


Ivan0 
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before I knew about hex Earth this was my favorite map to use a super im power. then easy
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 11/29/2023 08:49:08

Mark
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Otto, Since I'm planning a lot of digging on this map, the slow play & cooldowns don't bother me. I knew the tech tree was going to take a lot of time, so everything is kind of working well together. The AP is important but the idea of completing THIS level is quite satisfying. I am, however, going to hold off on hardened trisk until I get my next legendary (SAC or ArmyCache).
A bit of a wrinkle with hardened Europe juge: 12/2/2023 17:32:34

Mark
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Done! Nine days, 12 hours. I used 1 IM and my TS at least 6 times. That tech tree was a killer. I finished all the critical techs except for that last 10% hospital boost (3 magnets and 6 transformers was too painful to think about, especially after the 4 transformers needed to clear the 50% cache bonus. I got lucky with that. Got a free one using craft double in the last minute.)

Money was really tight at the end. Those welding bar resource caches were critical. I was converting them into mercs one by one to progress to the end but, with 99 territories to go, no more caches, and 2.6T armies still on the map and my markets all squeezed dry, that merc camp at Kirovsky, with over 1T mercs, saved the day.

I am going to spend the AP to max the AP bonus at 25%. While the tech needed reduction is attractive, I agree with Otto and will probably never play this level again!
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