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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:08:14


Little Blue
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Almost half of all Americans reject evolution as a valid scientific theory. 'Murica!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

Almost half of all voters wouldn't even consider voting for their party's candidate if he were a proclaimed atheist. 'Murica!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/atheists-muslims-bias-presidential-candidates.aspx

Racism divides the country more and more every year. I'm not just talking about southerners racist against blacks either. Reverse racism is an even worse problem, any criticism of a minority individual is about as taboo as criticizing someone's religion. Probably more taboo, actually.

I'm definitely not proud of my country... anybody have a nice suggestion on somewhere else I can live? :D
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:31:01

Elroi{IL}
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Each country with many minorities have a lot of racism, rather than the government, these people are not tolerant, not always there is racism Some people say they are discriminated against for benefits they do not try to move forward, for example demonstration in the US black boy shot, most people just looking for a reason to riot, especially lower class ...

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:41:31


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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^yep
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 16:15:30


Ranek
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Once I learned to start with the good things. This deserves some time for reflection...
I havent been in the USA, so far, but as far as I know there are beautiful countrysides. Your cultural achievements are massively influencing the whole world, which isnt always a good thing but this might depend on opinion. You scientific progress is admirable. The few americans I know are very friendly and polite, they mostly intend to be perfect gentlemen.

Unfortunately american society seems to be devided into extremes. They do and did have leading personalities on various topics, as well as dumb radicals, which refuse scientific achievements, good sense and social advance for the benefit of blind faith, racism and megalomania. In many places american society is awfully backwarded. To mention only few major issues: armed civilians, a lack of social primary care, like a civil health ensurance, creationism, legalized torture and the fear of the unknown, especially foreign religions.

I dont want to go into further detail. In my opinion, basing on my prejudices, the USA turns out to be a brutalized, ruthless hillbilly nation.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 16:23:04

Elroi{IL}
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Which great things have racists in America? 1 Tell me, what makes you think that it is common? It is a country of 300 million, it is impossible to enforce and to know everything.

This is the most tolerant country in the world, all in an immigrant, she a dark country?

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 16:56:52


Жұқтыру
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Elroi, US is surely not the most tolerant country in the world. Again, racism and xenophobia. View Dairiy as an example. Patriotism/Nationalism, as Little Blue demonstrated, is amok. I'd say even more tolerant is Israel, if you are not Arab.

The top 3 most tolerant countries, though:

Singapore
Switzerland
Palau
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:26:28


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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Wow, foreigners don't like the fact that we own guns. Explain to me why.

Look at history. When peopled try to rebel with out weapons they end up dead. What would happen if The colonies didn't have guns? Or the French revolution? Look at Ukraine they walk around with shields and hard hats and get massacred.

Think of it, if everybody owned guns the government would fear the people.( To me this is good that way government doesn't walk all over the people)

Now you may say, "But what happens when a guy decides to go homicide?" well my answer would be that you would be stupid to go homicide because everybody has a gun.

Another question is, " Our forefathers didn't have our technology back then so they only thought of muskets and other old weaponry." My reply is this, our forefathers let us have guns that way we can defy a corrupt government if the time comes we may have a chance to fight back.

Tactically when many citizens own guns who would want to invade the heartland? Even if you destroy the military you will still have a militia to deal with.

I think the pros out way the cons on this subject.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:30:03

Saikhan
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America isnt America anymore folks, It used to be a great nation but in actuality they lost the cold war due to a secret treaty with Gorbachev and now the ex stasi staff control the entire western world circa 1991.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:35:27


Polakillo
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I really doubt that Switzerland can be considered tolerant. As far as I know they were quite racist :S

This was used in a political campaign some years ago


I suppose the party using this didn't win, but if i remember correctly they had a good number of votes.

P.D. I am saying what I can remember, maybe it went completely different to what I am saying
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:41:40


Polakillo
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And sorry for the double post... but about the guns...

I can understand that people feel safer having a gun, but if no one has a gun, then everybody is safer. If a guy is nuts and has a pistol, he can go to a school, or a cinema and kill others. If it is not possible for him to have a gun, there is no problem.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:50:37


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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"Where there is a will

Thers a way"

Thats what they say.

If a man desires to kill

Theres no point to sway.

He'll make death

Don't waste your breath

you cant prevent.


Moral: If somebody wants to kill they will kill

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:56:42


Little Blue
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You can't get rid of guns in the US.

The problem with gun control, is it only affects law-abiding citizens. Most crimes committed with guns are done with guns that were procured illegally already. More laws won't stop criminals from breaking the law. Just like anything else the US has tried to ban, people who want to get it will still get it.

So if you outright banned all guns, you'd just end up with even more defenseless victims. Also, it would open up a larger black market, which increases crime. Look at prohibition. Look at the war on drugs. All it served to do is empower the mafia, empower drug cartels, and empower gangs.

People who don't live in America need to realize that it's a different culture, and a different geopolitical situation. If you really want to learn something interesting, take a look at the crime rates in each state when they passed either new gun control or gun rights legislation.

Lastly, when the 2A was written, Congress had already ordered automatic rifles, so don't think they were only thinking of muskets. There was a rifle being developed that could fire 8 rounds in 5 seconds, roman-candle style. The 2A was written with the idea that any weapon the government could own, citizens could own. Many of the ships and cannons used in the revolutionary war were privately owned.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:42:46

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I've never debated gun control before, but i think a big reason for supporting gun control is that guns simply gives people a quick and easy method to kill. Murders are often performed under acts of anger and rage rather than coldly calculated and planned long beforehand. Murderers are not necessarily psychopaths and violent lunatics, perfectly normal people can let their emotions get the better out of them, and its understandable, though its still murder anyway.

Say someone finds his wife has been cheating on him, its easy to just kill her there and then when he has a gun lying just on the table. Banning guns, however, would mean the person would first have to illegally purchase a gun through a black market, which can take the motivation away from people and perhaps give them the time to reflect and forgive. Not to mention pulling a trigger requires less physical and psychological effort and probably less bravery than going up to someone and full on stabbing him with a knife.

Yes, people kill people, not guns. But I think the simple possession of a gun gives some people a feeling of power and a quick and easy means to vent their anger and frustrations on others. Its not good.

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:47:20


{rp} eisenheim
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My only issue with America is their foreign policy. Interventionist, hypocritical, biased and ineffectual. All they seek is an American empire, thinly veiled by blatant disregard for the very rights they preach.

Each country has their own culture, positives and negatives. The US culture is in the limelight due to globalization and the high demand for it. The same applies to internal politics. Racism, xenophobia and the problem of forming an ideal welfare state are all debated worldwide due to their position. Not to mention it is ammunition to criticize America a bit more. Real hard to criticize constructively unless you are a resident or extremely well versed in American domestic affairs.

If America fought only when threatened, did not intervene in Big Brother style and went about correcting its internal affairs I am sure many here would praise their gallantry and wisdom. Shame that a country with such power is doing the complete opposite of that.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:54:06


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Was it good that we left Syria?( i think not cause now Isis is loose)
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:55:00


Ranek
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Look at history. When peopled try to rebel with out weapons they end up dead. What would happen if The colonies didn't have guns? Or the French revolution? Look at Ukraine they walk around with shields and hard hats and get massacred.

Think of it, if everybody owned guns the government would fear the people.( To me this is good that way government doesn't walk all over the people)


damn, this is so dumb, it will be waste of time to provide an answer. anyway, times have changed mate. We live in the 21st century not in the 19th! You claim america to be the best country in the world and say, that you need guns to fear the government. this is pretty sad and shizophrene. The government doesnt care for a single second about the armed citizens. They already walk all over the people. They locked the water supply to the poorest and no one did anything to deal with this. You are nothing else, than products of fear and consumption! by the way are you christian?

In ancient times, where a single sherrif used to protect a vaste area with his gun and horse, armed civilians and the castle doctrine might have made sense. In fact that people already had a gun for hunt. And too many must have sent to prison without this specific law. But nowadays it's outdated. It is the duty of the police to protect the people. If everyone judges a crime by hisself you will obviously end up in anarchy!

Now you may say, "But what happens when a guy decides to go homicide?" well my answer would be that you would be stupid to go homicide because everybody has a gun.


why do you think that guns are appropriate to defend yourselfes? Do you really think it might help you to prevent an assassination, committed with another gun? This is ridiculous!

EDIT: totally agree with Pulsey.

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:01:29


Little Blue
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Pulsey, those types of murders are quite rare, while guns are used for self-defense quite a lot. A study by the department of justice found over 1 million cases per year of self-defense with a firearm.

Of course, if you banned guns, you would prevent *some* homicides. Just looking at that and not considering the other side of the coin though, is extremely short-sighted.

Homicides are committed by a certain demographic at a rate far higher than other demographics, and as I said, studies have found that the guns they use weren't acquired legally.

Edit: Ranek, 15 minute response time is going to do what for you when a meth-head breaks into your house at night? Look at the facts before deciding what the best course of action is.

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:05:36


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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I don't praise america.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:07:50


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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And i never said having a gun prevents death. it just kills the killer
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:11:25


Жұқтыру
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Pola, about your comment about Switzerland: 30% of it's citizens are foreign born. I think the example you showed is more an example of bad advertising rather than xenophobia. Switzerland also has high tourism rates. It would not have all this if it was xenophobic.
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