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[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/10/2014 20:36:30


God
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Hi!

So recently I've been looking for middle east (and North Africa) maps, but sadly, they're all too... Rough (too big regions) and each country only has 1 bonus, meaning that if one region is conquered, the whole country will - most likely - fall.

So I request that any of you amazing map developers create a middle east and NA map.

What I ask for:

* Bunch of small regions (like 150-300).

* Detailed bonuses, both major and minor.

* A lot of devotion to the project.


-Plz post in the thread if you're taking up this task :D

Edited 12/10/2014 20:37:29
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/10/2014 20:50:26


Little Blue
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I need to finish my LotR map first, but a ME map might be fun. I'm not really familiar with the politics/geography, but I could at least make a template map.

Basically, just a large map with lots of cities/regions, that would make it easy to create specific maps of whatever size you want just by combining regions that are already drawn.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/10/2014 20:57:58

[NL] Lucas
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Hi,

I am interested in making one. You have to know that I am not a profassional map maker, so it could look a litte chaotic, and I never made a map that big (300 bonusses are almost ten times the amount of bonusses my biggest map has).

Could you contact me again to say if I get the job? Then I will send you some links of what I am doing during the progress.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/10/2014 21:20:20


Bane 
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Sic semper tyrannis
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/10/2014 21:41:10


Little Blue
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Here's the level of detail I have in my current data. Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan I only have first level regions for.

[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/11/2014 00:10:51


Жұқтыру
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Yes, it's so difficult to find any information on Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.

Afghanistan looks way to over-detailed, Iraq has a bit of the problem to.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/11/2014 00:56:49


Little Blue
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Yeah, that's just raw data, I haven't touched it.

The good thing about these shapefiles though, is that every territory is already named.

http://www.diva-gis.org/gdata + QGIS/Indiemapper = win.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/11/2014 14:38:16


God
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Well blue, your map already looks awesome.

This is exactly what I wanted, you just gotta merge a few of the regions bordering Kabul with Kabul. You just gotta add Syria, Arabian Peninsula and Turkey.

And could you add kurdish bonus?

Edited 12/11/2014 14:40:06
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/12/2014 18:54:58


El Amauta
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I have great knowledge bout the ME and 'bout political matters of the current situation in the region. However, I do not make maps because I 've not the program and do not have time for this. But I can customize a game reflecting the current situation perfectly.

Note: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc., are not part of the Middle East.
I believe that people want a map covering from Turkey to Egypt; and Israel (Gaza and Palestine) to Iran.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/12/2014 19:01:34


God
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Well, adding the kurdistan boost and a bunch of Iraq/Syria boosts including some kurdish boosts will allow for the ISIS scenario (which I had in mind when I requested this map)
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/12/2014 19:09:51


Little Blue
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Like that? If you wanted to outline some regions I could combine them in Inkscape and get something basic done quickly.



Edited 12/12/2014 19:10:41
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/12/2014 21:18:45


God
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No actually, looks like you fixed everything :D

But remember to add a bunch of bonuses in Iraq and Syria. Like just a bunch of 1+ major city bonuses and a east-west-north-south etc. bonus.

And a kurdish boost going through northern-messopotamia.

PS. I could get somebody to host a scenario with this, a lot of ppl have been looking for such a map for a long time :D

Edited 12/12/2014 21:22:15
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/12/2014 21:55:18


El Amauta
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That is what we're talking about! :))
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 06:42:03


Little Blue
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Alright, you guys win. It's coming. I could use a break from Middle Earth anyway.



Fun fact. Bahrain drawn to scale, with the map sized as large as it can go, is too small to even be a single territory (let alone 5).

Edited 12/13/2014 06:44:13
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 07:28:04


Little Blue
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So, question.

Bahrain, Isreal, Palestine, Lebennon... all very small, would you like me to just simplify, or pop-out an expanded version of those countries like I did with Bahrain?
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 07:42:41


Жұқтыру
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I say include Kazakhstan and Central Asia. They're historically (pre-1860s) part of the Middle East
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 10:26:04


God
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Just add 1 or 2 territories in Israel,and the rest can be 1 territorial.

And those who can't be alone (like Bahrain) you add into another smaller country, like Bahrain-Kuwait region or Bahrain-Qatar.

Edited 12/13/2014 10:27:31
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 10:27:18


Little Blue
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It's going to be about 300 territories, 45 geographical bonuses, and then any additional political/religious/scenario bonuses.

@Burka-nissen: I went ahead and did an expansion, it would be easy to remove it and simplify, probably for a medium/small sized version.



Edited 12/13/2014 10:29:10
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 10:27:55


God
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Do you have any idea when it's coming out? :D

And are all the reds regions or bonuses? In case they're bonuses could you add Erdbil as a 1+ bonus, same with Baghdad and damascus?

Edited 12/13/2014 11:28:42
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 10:30:35


Little Blue
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@Жұқтыру: I won't include them in this version, but I could probably add them and some other things to make a broader-scale map later.

@Burka-nissen: I just have to finish dividing up Turkey, it should be ready to test later today. Polishing everything will take a bit longer.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/13/2014 23:27:52


Little Blue
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Alright. It's ready to start testing and polishing. If you notice any missing or confusing connections, or have any advice, please let me know.

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=38806

I'm thinking Iran needs another port on the southeast side, right now there are 26 total bonus units for the country and a choke point of only 5 territories. Also think I need to do something about Eastern Anatolia Region(East Turkey). I can't think of a good way to split it up, or if it's ok to have such a vast bonus.

@Burka-nissen: Yeah, we could look at adding some capital bonuses. Also, any ideas on other bonuses(religous, political, campaign) just let me know.

Edit: There are a few territories I need to expand, so I am aware of the ones that are too small.

Edited 12/13/2014 23:31:17
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 00:28:17


Жұқтыру
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Wow, that was fast, but:

Egypt has been swallowed by the sea :C
Check your visible sea-connections, IE Socotra
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 00:41:35


Little Blue
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I'm not sure what's causing that glitch, it doesn't show up during gameplay, just on the map preview.

Socotra has been fixed, thanks :)
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 00:52:49


Red Menace
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I would have done it a lot differently.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 01:07:23


Little Blue
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@Red Menace: Is there anything in particular you think would be an improvement?
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 01:14:02


Жұқтыру
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Just a suggestion, I think you should use the plates that the 1066 map uses for boats. More realistic. Also, Kuwait might be divided too finely, maybe you should have a zoom on that.

Edited 12/14/2014 01:19:35
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 05:17:58


Red Menace
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Well for one I would add at least 100 extra territories, dividing up all the country-sized territories. Especially Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. Secondly, I would edit larger border lines between bonuses so they are more easily recognizable, and probably add colours too.
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 05:41:54


Little Blue
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Ah, in my workflow, offsetting the bonus borders and doing colors is one of the last steps. There's no reason to spend time doing that while borders and bonuses aren't still final. Of course I'm going to do that before finishing.

For consistency, what I've done is split each country into its first level divisions, it seems it would be strange to split some countries into provinces and others down into smaller districts, wouldn't it?

@Жұқтыру: I don't like those plates, they make things too messy and cluttered for me. I don't want to add another cut-out, but enlarging Kuwait is on my list. There's plenty of room to do it.

Edited 12/14/2014 05:43:11
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 09:37:54


God
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You forgot to adda b onus in Palestine/Isreal :L
[NEW MIDDLE EAST MAP NEEDED]: 12/14/2014 09:59:50


Little Blue
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I have one for Israel, one for Gaza, and one for the West Bank. The new version has one for Tel Aviv as well. Are you just not seeing those?
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