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Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:14:56

Fizzer 
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This thread is for discussing the recent announcement: http://blog.warlight.net/index.php/2013/07/coming-soon-points-and-levels/
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:26:24


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Sounds very good to me :) I'm looking forward to it. I just wonder if buying membership will become less popular; perhaps if the levels aren't too easy it won't matter so much.

As a paying member, when my account is grandfathered do I keep all the capabilities?
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:27:32

Seahawks 
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will a new account (created after 2.0) that buys membership, get all the current member things, or will they have to unlock the member things from gaining levels, also will ladders still be member only?
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:29:02

Fizzer 
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As a paying member, when my account is grandfathered do I keep all the capabilities?

Absolutely. I would never take something away from someone who paid money for it -- that would be very evil :).
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:30:23


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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:D good to know Fizzer. Thanks.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:30:36


Pink 
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nice, just hope this comes out soon
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:30:42


skunk940 
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Is there a max to what level you can reach?
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:31:47


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Seahawks, Fizzer may not say if ladders will be members only because it will give away a feature prize :D

I expect it won't though, as the best (non-member) players will add good competition into the ladders. I think your level will be very high to get this though.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:34:53


skunk940 
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Ladders are already members only at the moment General Arun, but it does make you wonder if it will be open to high level free members.

It also brings the question up of do single player games go towards levelling up?
Also do you only get experience from winning or for taking part as well.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:35:50

JSA 
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I like the idea Fizzer, Is there any way to prevent people like Beelzebub (who make multis and surrender with the multis at the beginning of the game) from leveling up unless they won a fair game? I like the idea of levels but I think ladder games, and big tournaments should be given more points, such as a championship being worth 10 points while a first round game is worth only one. Whether it's set up like the way I would have it set up or not, it still adds something to the game and is something else people can shoot for.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:36:54

andy903 
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idk whether to think this is good or bad, i payed £20 for membership a few weeks ago mainly for 3 things; being able to create tournaments, changing luck and being able to invite more than 6 people to a games. From what you have said people will be able to get all of this without paying when 2.0 is introduced so i just wasted my money. This is my view and probably the view of some other members unless the unlocks you get when your a member are quite special.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:39:19

黃昏{TJC}
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I'm just curious Fizzer, will there still be only member-only capabilities, or will letting advertising onto the site remove the need?

P.S. I just want to say thank you for creating WarLight, the past few months have been wonderful with it; and I've made many new friends- thanks Fizzer!
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:39:36

Seahawks 
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I agree with andy ^, i know there are ads for revenue now, so membership wont be as useful for money, but i would like to think there are still some significant member only benefits, other than ads, which i (and many others) will choose to vieww
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:40:16


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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andy I expect most member features that can be 'unlocked' will require a very high level (which will take a lot of time). I see your point though.

Skunk, I think you should try to read my post again :D
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:41:25


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Also Skunk if you read the blog post you'll see its only ranked games that count towards levels.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:42:25

andy903 
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Guess so general but we dont know how long it will take to rank up and i would prefer to just rank up and get the unlocks instead of paying money no matter how long it takes
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:43:31

Fizzer 
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Is there any way to prevent people...who make multis and surrender with the multis at the beginning of the game) from leveling up unless they won a fair game?

This will be against the rules, and anyone caught playing sham games will lose *all* their points and levels. Since games are never deleted, the evidence will live on forever and anyone doing this will eventually be caught.

ladder games, and big tournaments should be given more points

They will indeed! Tournament points will be relative to the levels of players participating in that tournament.

i payed £20 for membership a few weeks ago...i just wasted my money

I understand why you may feel that way, but you should wait until you see all the details. I'm pretty sure you won't feel like it was a waste once all the details are revealed.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:43:36


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Yep I see for some it may be a problem. At the very least you will have the same features immediately. At best, new features will only be accessible for members (like yourself).
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:44:39


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Lol posted and as it refreshed I saw Fizzers post.

I think my latter point may be pretty close andy :)
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:46:37

andy903 
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Yer i think based on fizzer's message im sure he will come up with something worth membership in 2.0
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:49:31

Seahawks 
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fizzer, will there be an official clan system?
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:50:31


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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For those of us who have a great many games already (such as myself, HHH, etc..) will we start at a higher level, such as 40 or whatever? Or does all of this start from the beginning?

For example, when 2.0 is released, will every player be level 0? Or will people start at the level they *should* be based on who they have beaten, completed tournaments, and whatever else contributes to a high level? I would be mildly annoyed if someone who created an account today and old players like myself had the same level :/ I understand that is a level playing field, but I've already put a great many hours into this game, while they haven't.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:51:25


ps 
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i'm curious
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:54:28


[WM] Gnuffone 
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+1 nooschool, i completely agree. I think Fizzer have to consider past games.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:55:57

dreuj 
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all players will start as level 1, it's written in the blog.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:56:55


[WM] Gnuffone 
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oh sorry, didn't understand it.
I think is a mistake, all old player will be angry bc this imho.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:58:47

Fizzer 
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For those of us who have a great many games already (such as myself, HHH, etc..) will we start at a higher level, such as 40 or whatever? Or does all of this start from the beginning?


I put a great deal of thought into this, in fact. I was very close to making a section on it in the blog post.

In the end, I feel the right decision is to start everyone at level 1*. Some people have been playing since 2008, and if the points were given out for every game played there would be tons of people who basically started out already done leveling.

The fun is really in the journey, not the destination. Think about the last RPG you played -- did you have more fun after you were max level, or while you were leveling up?

This would also make it impossible for new players to compete.

*: This is not entirely true. Some things *will* carry over from before 2.0 and award points. But it's the exception rather than the rule. More on this will be announced later.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 16:58:55


myhandisonfire 
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All accounts created before this announcement will be considered grandfathered. All grandfathered accounts will automatically have access to all of the features that used to be given by default. This is done so that nobody loses anything when 2.0 goes live.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 17:02:24


myhandisonfire 
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I want to discourage innovation fizzer, but i rather see true ELO but this.
It will end in the way that sheeple run after badges and awards that give no indication of playing skill instead of being able to really compete through something more universally objective such as an ELO system.
Coming soon: Points and levels!: 7/8/2013 17:03:53


Mudderducker 
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I like the idea but I kinda agree with noobschool. Also what's the point in members doing we would unlock things that we already have. Also what's the maximan level?
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