2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 12:02:58 |
Aranka
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Yes, those are good players.
But we're talking about a TEAM here.
Just a week ago you were not even able to make a team and right now you're supposed to be ranked into the top tier ??
I don't get that at all....
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 12:15:33 |
Aranka
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Gnuffone, we all know you deem yourself a legend who in his mind deserves to be called more then just a "mere" good player, but so long as I still win more then 1/4th of the games we play together I'll refrain from bowing down to you oke ? :)
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 12:30:18 |
Aranka
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What about we don't play 1vs1 ME but play 1vs1 season VII mode or 1vs1 Guiroma or 1vs1 something else ?
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 12:58:37 |
RvW
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We could let all team captains rank all teams, then take the average of all those ratings and decide the "top eight" based on that. I mean, we've got an entire week left right, might as well find something to do to pass the time. :p
Oeh, I know! If we assume good players are also good at judging the strength of other players we don't have to settle for the average, we could take the weighed average, that sounds fancy, so it must be accurate!!!111
On a more serious note, how about dividing the 32 participating team into four groups of eight (A, B, C, D). Then we have eight matches between A and B as well as eight matches between C and D (all randomly assigned of course). The winner of each AB is then matched with the winner of each CD.
All teams from the same country get the same letter; this assures they cannot meet in the first two rounds. We simply trust the random generator not to put all the strong teams in one part of the tree. That also means we won't have to argue about it either!
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 14:54:16 |
JSA
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Dunga, are you planning on calling all the leaders together to vote? Because with a lot of people voting, it woudl be more accurate I think. Maybe give 2 points to the Tier A teams and 1 point to Tier B teams, and zero to the other 16.
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 15:00:23 |
Aranka
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No offence JSA but that is the most stupid suggestion I've ever heard.
You want people to vote for the division of the different tiers and yet the votes of the teams in the higher tier count for more ??
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of the voting process ?
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 15:12:01 |
dunga • apex
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You misunderstood what he wrote.
You can make 8 votes worth 2 points, and 8 votes worth 1 point.
I think its fair.
All Captains/teams plz repost your line-up in this thread http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=6331, so we can have more organized.
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 15:18:31 |
Aranka
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It doesn't seem like that's what he meant though dunga
And even if we go along with what you propose here you will have 32 players all giving 16 votes......seems like a lot of hassle to me
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 15:22:57 |
JSA
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Aranka, I don't know how you misunderstood it that bad. I didn't word it well but dunga understood exactly what I meant. And it won't be that much hassle, it's worth it I think.
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/9/2013 15:26:42 |
Addy the Dog
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Hey Aranka, you forgot to remind everybody about your 14-3 victory over WM!
:O
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/26/2013 03:09:51 |
Yeon
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A little necromancy to bring this thread back up?
When it comes to seeding, I think the most fair thing would be to seed based on the previous Nations Cup rather than by reputation/popularity. The effect of that would be the quarterfinalists in pool 1 and the losing round of 16 teams in pool 2:
Quarterfinalists / Pool 1:
Brazil
Norway
Netherlands&Flanders
Serbia
Germany
Israel
Italy
US East
Round of 16 losers / Pool 2:
Britain & Ireland 1
Britain & Ireland 2
Canada
France
Lithuania
Poland
US Central
US West
The teams are all there in the new Nations Cup, though the Poland 2 players who made round of 16 don't seem to make up Poland 2, so the logical thing is to seed Poland 1.
Basing seeding on results rather than vote is a value in itself (more fair, and most would argue more accurate), but also it'd save us from having to do a lot of work with compiling votes.
Question 1: Would this leave any obviously very strong (pool 1) teams out of seeding altogether?
Question 2: Is there any reason other than a "yes" on Question 1 to not do it this way?
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/26/2013 03:24:02 |
JSA
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Yeon, the last Nation's Cup was a year ago. I was on US Central 2 at the time cause I was not very good. For starters, US Central 1 will add me and Gui which would most definitely put us above a few teams currently in Pool 1. France has grona, Mian, Niko, Marc, 4 former #1's on the ladder and you're gonna keep them out of Pool 1? There are many other changes to the lineups that should be done as well I think, things change over the course of a year, players get better, much better, and some decline in skill.
I think part of the reason why you would want to do it this way is so your team can be in Pool 1, because I think Norway could possibly be voted into Pool 1 but I wouldn't say it is likely. Let's do it the most accurate way instead of hanging on to past results.
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2nd Nations Cup - REGISTRATIONS: 7/26/2013 03:36:00 |
told you i could change your name
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as usual, it seems the loudest teams get to be in the top group... sigh.
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