While I was in a game today, I had a debate over the terms of surrendering with another player. While his ideas seemed interesting, he was a rather poor English speaker, and could not articulate his claims as well as I could. Therefore I would like to hear opinions from other people regarding the subject of surrendering.
We both had two perspectives on the matter:
The player I talked with had an argument stemming from a more "Diplomatic" perspective - that is, he viewed surrendering as a way of ruining a game, and allowing one player to "snowball" into high income and therefore, controlling the game, all entirely based off of his experience playing diplomacy. If a player surrenders, regardless of their position (he claims), it ruins the effect of the game, and the players' "excitement" of the game.
My perspective comes from a more competitive standpoint, in which players, once they concede that they have lost, surrender as a sign of defeat, not to "ruin" the game for the other player. This could apply to 1v1 and team games mostly, and usually holds true to FFAs (without truces, as to not get muddy with backstabbing issues).
I found his arguments rather stupid to be honest, as he proposed a system that would initially make players only win by booting or eliminating the other player(s)/team, which he later revised to require that players could only surrender after turn 20 regardless of the outcome. I'm sure my standpoint could easily be revised, but I am limited to my own thought, which is why I'm asking here.
Some preliminary questions, which can lead to other clarifying ones, could be:
- Why do [you] think people should surrender?
- What are your thoughts on surrendering before turn 1?
- At what point in a game do you think surrendering is a viable option?
- On the subject of diplomacy games (of which I have no experience), is surrendering an option, even if you are in a bad position? If not, why do you think this?
- What do you think is a just cause for surrendering?
If you opt to answer these questions, explaining it as well as possibly providing a link to a game which proves your point would be of great help.
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I'd like to hear thoughts on the matter now, not what people thought of even if a few weeks ago.
Questions/Comments greatly appreciated.