Throwing away Legendaries is really awful. In your situation dongpa, I'd probably suggest bringing your A$B up to Insane (you're less than one Epic away) and then taking AV for your second artifact (probably at Epic), then +25% AP.

Thank you! @mr_fancy_pants

But first of all, I have to eat one more legend to make some Insane artifacts... I'm thinking about getting one epic for a quick SA in this term.
Epic Speedy Crafter, Hospital Discount, Hospital boost, Cache boost
It's a concern among these.

I only need to get one epic. This is very... conflicting.
First of all, I do common (just wish for SAC or TW) while I'm awake, and epic 3% before I go to bed, but this happened because I actually got epic once at 3%. How much need times, for one epic? It takes a little less than 3 hours to actually dig up a common with premium subscriptions and AP consumption. (About 2 hours and 50 minutes)

Anyway, I've been looking forward to everything I'm digging right now and collecting one by one, so I think I'll have no choice but to get another legend... I'm crying about how long it'll take to collect one epic...I'm torn about my plans every hour...

Edited 2025-08-16 16:49:55

I have super-ascended a seventieth time.

Boon chosen: +100 starting AP

Total boons: +925% AP, +25 arti, +800 AP

Artifacts carried over:

Insane (3): ACB, ACB, CB
Insane (3): MeD, RCB, TW
Legend (4):  AV, SAC, IM, MCB
Legend (3):  HB, BMB, TMB
Legend (2):  IV, SC

Epic (4): OV, DB, TS, HD^u
Epic (2): {TS, RCB}^f
Rare (2): MB, DB^su
Rare (3): {IV, SC, HD}^s
Unco (1): MB^s

^f:fodder, ^u:upgrade
^s:spare, ^d:downgrade

Upcoming: upgrade an epic

@dongpa

I would reccommend waiting to dig more artifacts and super with a Insane Army Cache Boost and a Epic Alloy Values/Epic Army Camp Boost, and 25% AP.

You should also get the Phase 4 Advancement Auto Dig, so you don't have to align digs around your schedule.

In the meantime you can just sit on hex or do the tech achievements i guess

@riskboy88
Thanks a lot

Going to Hex, it's almost impossible to clear levels after Super Ascend. Any tips on getting there?
and... Does auto-dig just attempt random digging?

get 10 skip levels one way or the other
Look up Hex Earth thread somewhere here [more than one, but one has maps]
Look up how to do assault plateau
Profit.

Chillhouz ascends for a 22nd time! 400% AP 8 artifacts IACB ISAC IA$B I$B ITW IAV IIM IDB

I am starting to hit a place where I can get to phase 3 by Japan. From there I skip to far land and then do hardened far land which gets me enough AP to jump to scandi and from there I jump to EH and once I beat that I either skip level or suck it up and do plateau assault and then do hex earth twice for a SAsc.

The question I have for my heavy hitters out there is…when should one start picking the 100 AP bonus? I feel like I’m not there yet but I’m also at a point where the AP I have is not going to make a huge difference. Am I wrong?

At about +1000%AP

1000 times or 10X is where the discussion landed last time with Ivan's input from what I recall.

@dongpa

It's going to be very slow after you super ascend (I'm assuming first super ascend, correct me if wrong), it will take you a few months to get up to speed and start using market strat again. The usual route for getting to hex is to complete Europe huge, get the advancement CSL 6 (6 skip levels, phase 3 advancement), and then use a superpower skip level. This will allow you to skip to Hex.

I *think* that auto dig takes the cheapest dig. But it shouldn't be an issue, as the expected artifact value per hour is all the same for all the digs.

@riskboy88

Thanks for your kind advise. I'm 3rd SA, and now ready for 4th SA with waiting new leg...
6 level skip and superpower skip level than can directly europe huge to HEX?

124 SA: +1900%AP, 25 artifact slots, +2500AP:

Current SA cycle for me Tutorial...CCC,FL,OT,HOT,HScandi,HRoR(1xnow used to play 2x),HCCC.
Plans for next week: +50%AP, +500AP.

Edited 2025-08-20 05:56:51

Aimix, i'm curious why do you still need +50%AP at your stage?

1 +25% is needed for me to do previously mentioned SA cycle without additional challenge levels 2nd one is to round up to even number.

Edited 2025-08-19 05:48:12

@dongpa

yes, that's right, 6 skip levels and a superpower skip is enough to bridge the gap from europe huge to hex.

@riskboy88

It was a good study. (In my language, it's an expression of appreciation for good teaching, but I'm not sure how it will be understood in English.)
First of all, I'll try Hex once after the next 4th SA start, while I'm digging with Auto-dig and waiting for Insane.

+Wow, I just saw the artifact time calculator on your profile. It's so convenient. I'll use it well, thank you.
Is there any map you recommend for artifact farming?

Edited 2025-08-19 11:22:24

Hex is good because there are simply a lot of artifacts and you can just sit and wait without having to change levels for quite a while.

Or you can try Hardened Old Town, decent amount of artifacts there and takes hardly any time to complete, at phase 4 you should be able to complete it without any hospital upgrades easily, no more than 15 minutes to reset the map and get more digs.

but honestly sitting on any level except the tiny ones will work just fine

Edited 2025-08-19 14:10:19

I just got one poor TW... Is it okay to make this a legend? That plan will, with 5 leg ACB A$B AVMD TW, because I'm too scared to give up everything just because I'm making A$B Insane...

Edited 2025-08-19 15:59:43

@dongpa

since you're already on 3 SA, how many artifacts did you bring on your last super ascend?

Given that your last super ascend was about 3 months ago and your current artifacts, I'm going to assume that you brought 4 artifacts on your last super ascend, so you chose extra artifact twice already and +25% AP once. (again, correct me if wrong)

I was operating on the assumption that you only had 2 slots earlier. But if you already have 4, I think it makes sense to go for artifact this time and bring 5 Legendaries. Reason being that you won't need to sit and dig for as long. Bringing your 5 Legendaries is definitely stronger than bringing just 1 insane A$B, and if you try to bring a few more rares with it because you have the slots to do so, it will mean more waiting time.

It's also a good setup for your future super ascends beyond your 4th. If you super ascend now with 5 Legendaries, then in a few months time when super ascending again, it fits your schedule of super ascending nicely, you upgrade to Insane A$B before your 5th SA, take 25% AP, and bring your Insane A$B and 4 epics. probably AV, ACB, TS, and whatever random epic you get from WZIB.

You then don't need to take +1 artifact for the next few super ascends. Let's say you super ascend for 5th time with Insane A$B and 4 epics. As long as you can dig up 1.5 epics every super ascension (which at base speed takes about 60 days), you can gain another 2.5 Epics from HCCC and WZIB, leading to a gain of 4 epics in a super ascension, upgrading one of your epics to a legendary. You can then spend your 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th super ascension taking +25% AP while upgrading one epic to a legendary in each super ascension. So if you do it like this, then by your 9th super ascend you will be at +150% AP and 5 artifacts - 1 Insane and 4 Legendaries.

After looking at all the SA's I'm wondering if anyone has ever taken repeated dig speed powerups? Certainly in the early SAs, the 2 epics you get from each SA are vastly superior to digging, but once SAs are cheap, is choosing dig speed improvement ever worth it?