fancy pants is that the advancements only, my leg artifacts would be good enough? I will need to figure out the cache surfing then.

geforce thanks for the tip! my start was a bit slow; I don't know why I had less money than you described for army camps so I had to burn some FCp but this is a great speed boost clearing this level before doing all the non-hardens.

HOT is tight on money with just Leg AV and full IASV + MD. Either you can do some cache juggling at the end or go for full ICM as well (which is cheap and you'll want for Hex anyways), which should be enough. A decent MD arti also works, among other things.

For HRome, the cache surf is very easy with a Leg A$B, but IIRC still workable with Epic. If you're tackling it early on, you'll want to smelt 3x Lanthanum Bars for the cache tech. There is Lanthanum ore available from a SEAD arena (alternatively, it's not awful to mine), and there's Thorium ore available from several resource caches, meaning you only need to mine Lead ore. The mining + smelting is quite doable in the 2h upgrade window for L2 hospitals, and progressively easier in 4h if you're going for L3 hospitals still, or potentially longer if you're also using a Leg+ TW. You will want to have HFL done first (for the mine doubler) if you're planning on mining. Leg AV gives tons of money here, even Epic AV should be comfortable (I don't remember, it's been a long time). No other powers or artis necessary. I'll leave the rest of the details as an exercise to the reader.

118 SA: +1825%AP, 25 artifact slots, +2200AP:

Now I'm doing SA per day. I'll add +25% till 1900% then restart +100APs.

Super #2

+25%, +1 art
Kept IA$B, ITW, LAV

11th super , took artifact

Insane qs,av,acb,a$b.
Leg hb,cb,tmb
Epic sac

I was thinking about writing a question about strategy, but it's not a big deal, so I'm asking here in the comments.

Currently, super ascension is available. Should we excavate more artifacts, make a legend, and super ascend? Or should we find an epic and speed up the super ascension right away? I'm hesitating what I should take with me.

Leg(4) ACB, A$B, AV, MD
Epic(2) RCB, TS
Rare(6) CB, TD, SC, SC, DB, OV
Uncommon(2) MCB, FH
Common(3) CB, ACB, BMB
Poor(4) EC, TS, AC, A$B

It's okay to get at least one epic from WZIB, but since I don't have SAC and TW, I'm only eating 20BP every time. I'm giving up WZIB epic. And I'm digging up common as fast as I can, It never collect better one...(ex: SAC, TW) they're not coming out. BP is close to 1600, so I'm thinking about collecting 3200 and getting one Rare.

I'm thinking about what to take if I ascend. Or maybe I should choose AP25% since it's not much...
What's a little funny is that when I bought a premium, hospital upgrades and mortar time are reduced, so I feel like the need for a Speedy Crafters artifact becomes incredibly important.

Edited 8/16/2025 16:31:38

Throwing away Legendaries is really awful. In your situation dongpa, I'd probably suggest bringing your A$B up to Insane (you're less than one Epic away) and then taking AV for your second artifact (probably at Epic), then +25% AP.

Thank you! @mr_fancy_pants

But first of all, I have to eat one more legend to make some Insane artifacts... I'm thinking about getting one epic for a quick SA in this term.
Epic Speedy Crafter, Hospital Discount, Hospital boost, Cache boost
It's a concern among these.

I only need to get one epic. This is very... conflicting.
First of all, I do common (just wish for SAC or TW) while I'm awake, and epic 3% before I go to bed, but this happened because I actually got epic once at 3%. How much need times, for one epic? It takes a little less than 3 hours to actually dig up a common with premium subscriptions and AP consumption. (About 2 hours and 50 minutes)

Anyway, I've been looking forward to everything I'm digging right now and collecting one by one, so I think I'll have no choice but to get another legend... I'm crying about how long it'll take to collect one epic...I'm torn about my plans every hour...

Edited 8/16/2025 16:49:55

I have super-ascended a seventieth time.

Boon chosen: +100 starting AP

Total boons: +925% AP, +25 arti, +800 AP

Artifacts carried over:

Insane (3): ACB, ACB, CB
Insane (3): MeD, RCB, TW
Legend (4):  AV, SAC, IM, MCB
Legend (3):  HB, BMB, TMB
Legend (2):  IV, SC

Epic (4): OV, DB, TS, HD^u
Epic (2): {TS, RCB}^f
Rare (2): MB, DB^su
Rare (3): {IV, SC, HD}^s
Unco (1): MB^s

^f:fodder, ^u:upgrade
^s:spare, ^d:downgrade

Upcoming: upgrade an epic

@dongpa

I would reccommend waiting to dig more artifacts and super with a Insane Army Cache Boost and a Epic Alloy Values/Epic Army Camp Boost, and 25% AP.

You should also get the Phase 4 Advancement Auto Dig, so you don't have to align digs around your schedule.

In the meantime you can just sit on hex or do the tech achievements i guess

@riskboy88
Thanks a lot

Going to Hex, it's almost impossible to clear levels after Super Ascend. Any tips on getting there?
and... Does auto-dig just attempt random digging?

get 10 skip levels one way or the other
Look up Hex Earth thread somewhere here [more than one, but one has maps]
Look up how to do assault plateau
Profit.

Chillhouz ascends for a 22nd time! 400% AP 8 artifacts IACB ISAC IA$B I$B ITW IAV IIM IDB

I am starting to hit a place where I can get to phase 3 by Japan. From there I skip to far land and then do hardened far land which gets me enough AP to jump to scandi and from there I jump to EH and once I beat that I either skip level or suck it up and do plateau assault and then do hex earth twice for a SAsc.

The question I have for my heavy hitters out there is…when should one start picking the 100 AP bonus? I feel like I’m not there yet but I’m also at a point where the AP I have is not going to make a huge difference. Am I wrong?

At about +1000%AP

1000 times or 10X is where the discussion landed last time with Ivan's input from what I recall.

@dongpa

It's going to be very slow after you super ascend (I'm assuming first super ascend, correct me if wrong), it will take you a few months to get up to speed and start using market strat again. The usual route for getting to hex is to complete Europe huge, get the advancement CSL 6 (6 skip levels, phase 3 advancement), and then use a superpower skip level. This will allow you to skip to Hex.

I *think* that auto dig takes the cheapest dig. But it shouldn't be an issue, as the expected artifact value per hour is all the same for all the digs.

@riskboy88

Thanks for your kind advise. I'm 3rd SA, and now ready for 4th SA with waiting new leg...
6 level skip and superpower skip level than can directly europe huge to HEX?

124 SA: +1900%AP, 25 artifact slots, +2500AP:

Current SA cycle for me Tutorial...CCC,FL,OT,HOT,HScandi,HRoR(1xnow used to play 2x),HCCC.
Plans for next week: +50%AP, +500AP.

Edited 8/20/2025 05:56:51

Aimix, i'm curious why do you still need +50%AP at your stage?

1 +25% is needed for me to do previously mentioned SA cycle without additional challenge levels 2nd one is to round up to even number.

Edited 8/19/2025 05:48:12