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Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/18/2013 23:03:02


[WM] Anonymous 
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I'd please any of moderators or Fizzer himself to tell me which rule i break by creating other accounts than mine. It's the 3rd or 4th account you suspended, banned, and deleted posts on forum.
As i don't break any rule (i don't take advantage of those accounts in tourney and ladders) explain me the reason of this PERSECUTION.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 01:18:02


myhandisonfire 
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haha did Qis post really got deleted?
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 02:02:59

Qi 
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yes. i impersonated a moderator. i violated a rule.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 02:08:12

Qi 
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to recap what was deleted:

Rule Set #1: What you see and must accept when you first create an account and enter multiplater (3 rules, nothing about impersonations).

Rule Set #2: Something about impersonating PLAYERS hidden somewhere on the website. You are never asked to accept this rule. Most people don't know where this rule is written.

Rule Set #3: Whatever Fizzer thinks is a violation of a rule. For example, I impersonated a moderator an hour ago. I thought it was funny. Fizzer did not. I thought it did not violate rule set #1 or #2. But it violated rule set #3.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 04:15:21

/RSP\Skinhead
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there are no rules in the warlight forums, the rule set 1 only applies to games.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 05:27:41


AquaHolic 
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It's Fizzer's site, he can do whatever he wants, stop harassing him for locking/deleting threads and/or suspend/ban accounts. Just thank him for an awesome game.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 09:56:48

Jehovah 
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he's done a good job managing the site, no arguments. Great improvements and also features. Not so good with helping out players though, I'v emailed him before regarding my Ku Kidx Klan account and he never replied
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 12:02:35

SMD4FREE
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To add onto my point, i agree with Qi on rule set 3. There are 3 basic rules, which most follow, but suspensions and bans are sometimes carried out because fizzer thinks your actions were a violation.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 15:11:09


skunk940 
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Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 17:56:09


[WM] Anonymous 
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What's the violation in creating an account named "Censorship, censorship everywhere"? Is there any difference between Red, skuns940, the 10 accounts named "bitch" "the bitch" "bitch fuck" "nazi" " the nazistas" and even KU KLUX KLAN???


Why those accounts stays there and mine are deleted in the next 20 minutes i create them? It funny that this started as the classic "trolling" the forum and challenging people in anonymate with "Shedy_Slut" account, but now this went forward. And no TAGG, i don't think it's about "fizzer's game, funny game, he can do everthing he wants".

I sincerly wouldn't give a f*** if banning account and deleting posts was a common practice and it was forbidden by rules, i would understand, but after seeing many many other "violationts" which remained unpunished, my wonder it justified when i see that i'm censured for any reason. Yes, when you banned my second, third and so on accounts, you didn't stated any reason, any rule broken, anything, and THAT'S bothering me. And i won't stop. I won't stop until you won't give me a reason good enough to all this persecution happening, or until you will ban even me.

I want to see how far you are willing to bring this one, but seeing the last eveniments, i'm pretty sure you are going to lose a player who supported you from the begin.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/19/2013 23:21:31

Jehovah 
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its actually ku kidx klan.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 00:17:09


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2912358845 <--- inactive, but not banned
http://warlight.net/Profile?p=811277083 <----- active, not banned either

pulsey - it's not always about you..
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 00:46:54

SMD4FREE
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i think its is actually, me and skunk commented on this thread, and me and skunk were mentioned. So he just started saying ku klux klan all of a sudden? DOnt think so.

The world revolves around me, Mushi.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 01:56:24


[WM] Anonymous 
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You are losing yourself in a glass of water... you WEREN'T mentionated, and the point weren't you.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 05:30:12

Jehovah 
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so who was it then?
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 06:19:00

Qi 
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Red, if you create a thread it is more obvious. Fizzer glances at thread titles and who wrote them. He doesn't read every post. The accounts of mine that have been banned created threads. The account you made of Shady created a thread. The ones that you mention that have not been banned simply post on the threads of others. It is not a question of persecution, merely one of visibility. Be less visible and you can avoid detection too.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 06:20:36

Qi 
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Also, the report button exists. Maybe you or I have been reported by others to bring it to Fizzer's attention. Maybe the ones that you mention are both less visible and have not been reported.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 07:25:49


skunk940 
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Why was i mentioned. Bit of a rubbish example.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 12:30:44


[WM] Anonymous 
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@Qi With one of them i also tried to just replay to existen post, but 5 minutes later was censured.

@Skunk I picked you in the example because when i wrote that, you were the last poster, nothing personal
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 13:25:13


ps 
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Red: Seriously? You create a fake account with clear misogynistic trolling intent and get upset it got banned? And your best arguments are "but others have racist accounts not banned" and "i haven't seen any rules about this"?

Trolling and impersonating other users is pretty common reason to get yourself banned from any forum.

How about REPORTING RACIST ACCOUNTS WHEN YOU SEE THEM? And maybe following the some basic forum netiquette like, i don't know, BEHAVING ACCORDING TO COMMON SENSE? Not spreading or inciting MISOGYNIST and RACIAL prejudice is a basic.

I agree with you and Gui on this one single point: the site should have a more clear and explicit TOS where it says "we can ban whoever for whatever reason, and will probably do so if you're acting like a douche"
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 14:39:47


[WM] Anonymous 
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If you followed the challenge thread you would realized that my intent was the OPPOSITE of mysoginist behaviour. But yeah, it's easyer to condamn than trying to understand what's behind the apparances. Also, what does the second, the third, the forth account have to be with mysoginism? They didn't have anything about what you said.

My argument is that others have REAL RACIST ACCOUNTS not banned, not fakes, not troll or whatever. Real people that played 100 200 300 games with those nicks and still are there.
The second argument was that i haven't see any rules about that WHEN I GOT BANNED AND THERE WASN'T ANY REASON SHOWED UP.

Read what i SAY, not what you would like THINGS TO BE. If i was the mod and ban you witHout specifing any reason, any rule broken, nothing, how would you feel? Would you ask any explaination? And when you post something with an account referring to censorship (so nothing near racist or misogynist) that is deleted without any reason, how would you feel?

Those are the answers i want. I don't critique the fact (any site may have its own forum rules), i critique the ways things happened. Like "i don't like you so i will censure everthing you says about my censorship policy"
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 15:20:03


Aranka 
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Have to agree with Red in this case
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 15:57:43


ps 
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If you followed the challenge thread you would realized that my intent was the OPPOSITE of mysoginist behaviour.


I saw it briefly, and what i remember was a fake account with a snarky name pretending to be a female, challenging males. whether you would win the challenges or lose them, and whether you are indeed a female behind the account is irrelevant. you started the thread on the premiss that genres are unequal and challenge for proof of the contrary. you are inciting people to take sides and either troll along for the lulz or raise the gender difference discussion. and you are fueling the thread further on. that is inciting misogynic behavior.

Perhaps i am wrong in some of my claims since i don't know what your 4 accounts are and what they did.

My argument is that others have REAL RACIST ACCOUNTS not banned, not fakes, not troll or whatever. Real people that played 100 200 300 games with those nicks and still are there.


I believe all racist accounts should be duly warned and banned when reported, and that if you see them you should report them. Fizzer not acting on those is a cause for concearn. I for one do not want to play in a site allowing racism.

On the other hand i also believe most of those accounts are made by dumb, and probably spoiled, kids with a poor taste in humor, trying too hard to be controversial because they fail to stand out any other way. Giving them more attention then they are worth only plays into their trolling. It's not our job (as strangers on the internet) to educate them where their parents and teachers clearly have failed.

If i was Fizzer i would warn and ban them as i see them. But i'm not in charge of the site so i just ignore and blacklist.

If i was the mod and ban you without specifing any reason, any rule broken, nothing, how would you feel?


I would feel like i did something the mod didn't agree with, and either stop using the site or change my ways that got me banned. You seriously can't see you did anything wrong there? The mod clearly disagreed. Perhaps you should try think about the reason why instead of getting all high and mighty with reason. You might even have a point, but they are the mods and you are not.

And when you post something with an account referring to censorship (so nothing near racist or misogynist) that is deleted without any reason, how would you feel?


I would feel like the mod caught up with my smartypants way to anonymously complain about something that happened to my other fake account and banned this one aswell because it's only boiling down to more of the same.

Then again, i don't much see the point in being master of the funny clones and duplicate accounts. It's mostly noise mascaraded as internal jokes. Most of them not even funny, and not bringing any value to the threads.


Don't get me wrong. I'm all for the right to free speech, i am anti-censorship and pro the right to anonimity. But this site and forum isn't about that. It's about playing games and having fun. The mods and admins have a role to play in making it fun and free of prejudice for everyone.

I seriously doubt your fake accounts were assisting their work in that department.

I guess you can say you don't care about making their lifes easier and that you are just doing what you thought you were entitled to, and that's fine. So are the mods, and that's why they banned your trolling accounts.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 16:13:18


[WM] Anonymous 
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tl;tr?
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 16:20:49


ps 
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you acted like an idiot, now you're acting like a victim.

mods have to moderate. you have been moderated.

congrats, achievment unlocked.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 17:41:14


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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As far as I have been able to read, the only power Fizzer said the moderators have is to create notable forum posts. I can't find any mention of Admins having powers to ban players. This shouldn't be taken as a moderator using their power aimlessly. Also, I don't think multi-accounts should be allowed onto the forum (although this is impossible to police; relatives etc.). I think the rules should be stated much more clearly, and new members should be directed to them after completing the tutorial.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/20/2013 17:49:31


Gnullbegg 
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I don't even mind too much that racist's accounts aren't banned merely for what name or profile pic they choose. I also appreciate that the forum, too, is relatively free of moderation (by and large). Yay 'free speech'.

But 'rules' that are made up on the fly or interpreted creatively on a case-to-case basis would bother me too if I were to receive a ban or suspension or whatever. With fuzzy laws there's always the problem that it sometimes looks like a sanction was imposed on a whim. Of course, Fizzer has set few and vague rules on purpose. I don't think this is really the best way to do it.

@AquaHolic: Yeah, sure, he can do what he wants. Doesn't mean any sort of critique on what he does when he does what he wants is automatically illegitimate. I don't see any harassing either. Just a bit of butthurt on Red's side (which appears to be at least somewhat justified - to me).
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/21/2013 01:59:56


[WM] Anonymous 
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ps...just drop it. IF you want to understand what i said (even if my english is not the best possible ever) do it, otherwise don't even lose your time analyzing and interpretating every single statement from a personal view. I explained what/how/why i acted and also i said what/why i'm asking explaination about what happening.

If you see idiotic behaviour first and "victimness" than, it's YOUR own interpretation, and sincerly, it doesn't help me to get my answers.
Warlight rules/censorship policy: 4/22/2013 03:10:23


DeмoZ 
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What Red is trying to say it that he is deeply and personally upset that his accounts that have not broken any rules are being banned. Whether his accounts are morally correct or not in the first place is irrelevant, because their are no rules against it.

The KKK was a racist organizations that killed black people. The KKK still exists today. Who are we to insult a group of people by saying their organization can not be put into usernames on a video game website? The KKK today is actually just a white power group their are plenty of black power and Asian power groups as well. In fact, saying that the KKK is racist and shouldn't be allowed is actually a racist comment.
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